NBA rumors and hearsay

[BwareDWare94]

Sorry -- I was literally falling asleep at the time and lacked the energy to write anything other than lol at that time


Everything you wrote just makes it clear that you don't understand anything. First off, we never tried to move up from 16. The plan was to take Jaylen third if we didn't trade the pick and then draft two Euros that we could stash away with the other picks. We didn't trade away the pick (because lol Chicago was asking for a ransom) so we took Jaylen.

And it's hardly an overdrafting -- he has the highest peak potential among those drafted after the Top 2. He might not be as ready as some like Dunn, but after looking at these Summer League games we definitely made the right decision. Jaylen's on ball defense has been very good, as he forces a lot of turnovers defensively as well as contesting shots fairly well. And offensively he leads all those in Summer League in FT attempts despite missing two games. He's not a great shooter but he's hitting more and more as we go. And knowing the fact that we are overly crowded at the guard position with Isaiah, Avery, Smart, and Rozier it makes perfect sense to target the SF over the PG. I can guarantee you've looked zero at Jaylen Brown and are just going off media expectations. Nice -- I can't wait for you to be wrong as fuck.


As for Westbrook, I've said this many times. He's a UFA. Nobody is going to trade for him without the assurance that he'll stay. I'd be incredibly shocked if he wanted to play on a Lakers team with Luol Deng and Jordan Clarkson as his best teammates (the Lakers wouldn't have the cap to sign anybody else). You have to find a team that is willing to give up assets yet would have Westbrook re-sign with them as well. It's a very short list, and that's why Boston's offer is currently at the top. I've said already it's not the best package teams could offer, but Westbrook isn't signing a max contract in Minnesota bruh. OKC knows he won't re-sign (otherwise they aren't trading him, period) so they aren't going to let him walk for zero value. And teams aren't going to give up their stars unless he'll re-sign.

Bradley, Smart, Jaylen, and both BKN picks are about as good as you'll get for him, unless he for some reason wants to play in Minnesota (contradicting his desire for a big market) or the Lakers (contradicts his competitive drive)

But please, continue on being so ignorant. Obviously Boston "wins" that trade. But OKC is in a tough situation and is going to have to sell Westbrook for less than what he's worth

 
I do think Minnesota is going to become a bigger basketball market with so many great pieces in place, and Minneapolis/St. Paul is a rather large metro. The only reason to not want to be in Minneapolis is if you hate the cold, which he might. It ain't that cold there, either, though. They're far enough south that they're out of the frigid areas by the border. 

But like I said, I don't want to see Westbrook on the Wolves at the cost it'd take to get him. I say let these young kids develop. 

 

[HitmanCapone]

Sorry -- I was literally falling asleep at the time and lacked the energy to write anything other than lol at that time


Everything you wrote just makes it clear that you don't understand anything. First off, we never tried to move up from 16. The plan was to take Jaylen third if we didn't trade the pick and then draft two Euros that we could stash away with the other picks. We didn't trade away the pick (because lol Chicago was asking for a ransom) so we took Jaylen.

And it's hardly an overdrafting -- he has the highest peak potential among those drafted after the Top 2. He might not be as ready as some like Dunn, but after looking at these Summer League games we definitely made the right decision. Jaylen's on ball defense has been very good, as he forces a lot of turnovers defensively as well as contesting shots fairly well. And offensively he leads all those in Summer League in FT attempts despite missing two games. He's not a great shooter but he's hitting more and more as we go. And knowing the fact that we are overly crowded at the guard position with Isaiah, Avery, Smart, and Rozier it makes perfect sense to target the SF over the PG. I can guarantee you've looked zero at Jaylen Brown and are just going off media expectations. Nice -- I can't wait for you to be wrong as fuck.


As for Westbrook, I've said this many times. He's a UFA. Nobody is going to trade for him without the assurance that he'll stay. I'd be incredibly shocked if he wanted to play on a Lakers team with Luol Deng and Jordan Clarkson as his best teammates (the Lakers wouldn't have the cap to sign anybody else). You have to find a team that is willing to give up assets yet would have Westbrook re-sign with them as well. It's a very short list, and that's why Boston's offer is currently at the top. I've said already it's not the best package teams could offer, but Westbrook isn't signing a max contract in Minnesota bruh. OKC knows he won't re-sign (otherwise they aren't trading him, period) so they aren't going to let him walk for zero value. And teams aren't going to give up their stars unless he'll re-sign.

Bradley, Smart, Jaylen, and both BKN picks are about as good as you'll get for him, unless he for some reason wants to play in Minnesota (contradicting his desire for a big market) or the Lakers (contradicts his competitive drive)

But please, continue on being so ignorant. Obviously Boston "wins" that trade. But OKC is in a tough situation and is going to have to sell Westbrook for less than what he's worth

As much as you want to continue to say Jaylen has the most potential I disagree by a lot, he had the 4th most potential in the draft behind Simmons, Ingram & Dunn.  He was probably the 8th or 9th best prospect in the draft and I believe the collective What when he was selected should tell you a lot.
 
As for Westbrook in Minnesota, When did I ever say anything about him coming here? I don't want him here, he'd cost way too much on a 1 year rental so please next time you have a big rant can you atleast stay on topic?
 
Lets also get one thing straight the only ignorant person here is you.  What's that you couldn't land Westbrook and now you're trying to bring Kevin Love in yet again?  How many teams have to tell you NO before you get the point?

 

[JZsportswhiz]

Russ to Golden State is not happening lmao. You are wasting bandwidth talking about it
 
It makes zero sense for either side

 

[elcheato]

It'd be an amazing troll move if they traded Draymond or something for him though. 

 

[bosoxlover12]

As much as you want to continue to say Jaylen has the most potential I disagree by a lot, he had the 4th most potential in the draft behind Simmons, Ingram & Dunn.  He was probably the 8th or 9th best prospect in the draft and I believe the collective What when he was selected should tell you a lot.

so when I say he has the most potential after the top 2 picks, I'm dead wrong, he has the 2nd most potential apparently. smh

And he was definitely not the 8th/9th best. General consensus was he was #7 by most, but knowing that Boston had zero need for another guard, that took numbers 3-5 off our board. And we didn't want Bender, #6. Jaylen is a perfect fit for our team, and I said that before the draft, repeatedly. And he's been playing great in SL as well
 

As for Westbrook in Minnesota, When did I ever say anything about him coming here? I don't want him here, he'd cost way too much on a 1 year rental so please next time you have a big rant can you atleast stay on topic?
 

we're talking about Westbrook trades, and when I mention that Minnesota offers the best package I'm off topic?? What?!

Lets also get one thing straight the only ignorant person here is you.  What's that you couldn't land Westbrook and now you're trying to bring Kevin Love in yet again?  How many teams have to tell you NO before you get the point?

kevin love?? What are you talking about -- seriously? and we "couldn't land Westbrook" -- says who? Nobody's traded for him yet and for all we know he's staying. All we're doing is discussing potential Westbrook trades and that Boston is most likely due to their package and winning environment. Please actually read before calling me ignorant

 

[elcheato]

I think he's talking about when I manipulated you into discussing Kevin Love

 

[bosoxlover12]

lmao what

I said one thing about KLove, like you said after you brought it up, and I'M bringing him up? Geez HitmanCapone, what did I do to you to have this vendetta cast upon me?

 

[elcheato]

It's the Marcus Smart avatar. Shows weakness 

 

[Paulius]

It's the Marcus Smart avatar. Shows weakness 

Lmao its one of those el cheato days today

 

[Mexi]

Bruh you changed your name

 

[bosoxlover12]

Also speaking of my boy

Game 4 offense
Game 4 defense

This is why I love Marcus Smart, and I will continue to overrate him until he is not capable of putting up games like this

 

[elcheato]

Once every 20 or 30 games you'll be able to hold your head high

 

[Hurricane Season]

He tried to dunk on his own fucking teammate.

 

[Mexi]

Marcus Smart the best 35%/25% shooter in the league fuck you guys

 

[HitmanCapone]

so when I say he has the most potential after the top 2 picks, I'm dead wrong, he has the 2nd most potential apparently. smh

And he was definitely not the 8th/9th best. General consensus was he was #7 by most, but knowing that Boston had zero need for another guard, that took numbers 3-5 off our board. And we didn't want Bender, #6. Jaylen is a perfect fit for our team, and I said that before the draft, repeatedly. And he's been playing great in SL as well
  we're talking about Westbrook trades, and when I mention that Minnesota offers the best package I'm off topic?? What?! kevin love?? What are you talking about -- seriously? and we "couldn't land Westbrook" -- says who? Nobody's traded for him yet and for all we know he's staying. All we're doing is discussing potential Westbrook trades and that Boston is most likely due to their package and winning environment. Please actually read before calling me ignorant

 
Okay so this didn't quote like I had hoped.  I did misread what you wrote about him being the best after the first 2 picks so I do apologize for that.  Myself I don't personally see him as the 4th best in the draft either. I got him somewhere around 7-9.  Yes it's true that you have guards but you don't have any guards that are on Dunn's level. This is the NBA and in the NBA you don't pass up that kind of talent.
 
As for Westbrook trades, sure whoever you were talking to might have been talking about trades but I specifically was only talking about you guys landing Westbrook with your "assets" not who I think has the best chance of landing him or where he might end up so where ever or whoever you were talking to it surely wasn't me.  However Boston's trade package remains shit and they will NOT land a superstar with those pieces, it just isn't happening.  So because I call you on your bogus trade I need to read before calling you ignorant? I'm a little confused on that part.  I guess I could say the Wolves could trade Shaba(ss)zz, Dieng & Tyus for Anthony Davis.  I guess I just don't see the point in discussing things that are this ridiculous but to each their own.

lmao what

I said one thing about KLove, like you said after you brought it up, and I'M bringing him up? Geez HitmanCapone, what did I do to you to have this vendetta cast upon me?

 
 
No vendetta bosox, I actually like your evaluation when it comes to the NFL draft and we've had some good discussions about previous drafts 
 
Edit: And FWIW I think Westbrook is in OKC until atleast the Trade Deadline if not all season and it really wouldn't surprise me at all to see him actually re-sign there or go to San Antonio as a Free Agent.  Oh and please lets not talk about how good a player will be based off of what they're doing in SL as there are far far too many cases to prove that SL doesn't mean jack.

 

[HitmanCapone]

I think he's talking about when I manipulated you into discussing Kevin Love

No no no, just Boston fans in general thinking that they have these "Great" Assets, the only thing the Celtics have that is worth a damn is the Brooklyn Picks. I guess Boston Fans are becoming as bad as Eagles fans, just my opinion though with fans of these teams I have personally interacted with, not all though but a majority.

 

[Paulius]

Well everyone is biased for their city teams so its acceptable

 

[cavsfan817]

No no no, just Boston fans in general thinking that they have these "Great" Assets, the only thing the Celtics have that is worth a damn is the Brooklyn Picks. I guess Boston Fans are becoming as bad as Eagles fans, just my opinion though with fans of these teams I have personally interacted with, not all though but a majority.

Yeah I totally agree with this. They have/had all these mediocre picks that nobody really jumped on and a bunch of decent players that teams shopping stars don't really want. Just a bunch of meh and nothing really "amazing"

 

[Paulius]

Illuminati

 

[bosoxlover12]

I just find it kinda funny that you call a trade offer shit that includes an All-Defensive 1st teamer, two future Top 5 picks (or at least one of them, but most likely both), a young defensive wing that shut down a red hot Paul Millsap, and the third overall pick in this past draft. Please tell me a better offer than that for a team that Westbrook will voluntarily go to.

Also we were never going to take Dunn because it would leave us too positionally cramped as I said. Sure Dunn will be very good, but he isn't better than Isaiah, and doesn't provide an immediate impact to start over Bradley either. So then he's on the bench -- and while yeah he is better than Smart and Rozier it does not mean it's worth taking him -- because we have Smart and Rozier. Smart's an elite defender at age 22, and Rozier according to SynergySports was the best and most efficient scorer in all of Summer League. Obviously you don't then imply Rozier is a future star, because he clearly isn't, but if you add Dunn then Rozier basically has zero playing time, and that's also lunacy. Sometimes you take the slightly less hyped up player for one who fits your system better. If you gave me the choice today to add either Mike Conley or Gordon Hayward to my team, I'm taking Hayward, even if Conley is considered the better player. And for Jaylen being ranked 7-9 look as his (potential) fit with Boston and it's clear he's ranked much higher on the Celtics board than Hield/Murray

Every asset in the Celtics trade has more value than everyone offered in your fake Davis trade, except maybe Dieng is equal to Smart. And Davis has literally 1000x more value than Westbrook currently has -- he's under contract for five more years where as Westbrook is an impending UFA.

Also there is no way the Thunder let him walk to the Spurs at the end of the year. Westbrook has seen how publicly humiliated the franchise has been when KD left them, and so when they ask Westbrook this offseason (if they already haven't), he knows that he will be traded if he doesn't want to stay. Obviously there is a chance he will re-sign, but if so the Thunder already know of it. But if he tells them won't re-sign they HAVE to trade him, and it will be hard to get fair compensation for a guy teams know will be a UFA. Like hypothetically, why would the Lakers trade Ingram and D'Lo for Russ when they can outright sign him in FA that next summer, if he wants to go to LA? Things like that lower his value immensely