2014 NBA Offseason/Free Agency Thread

[elcheato]

lol at "should get it done". That offer is so bad, and even worse when you realize it's for Kevin Love.

 

[Mexi]

Lel

Bosox i love you but no

 

[bosoxlover12]

Lel

Bosox i love you but no

how is that no?

Boston is offering 3 1sts, plus 2 players who are worth 1sts. I very much know Flip wanted to get Olynyk last year; maybe Sullinger gets flipped to Orlando for #12 and 2nd rounders...

What team is offering better than that in a trade?

Warriors are offering Barnes and Lee, no picks. Bulls are offering a late 1st and Jimmy butler. Lakers have no assets, Knicks have no assets. It's a good deal comparative to what the other teams are offering, or should i say, not offering.

 

[bosoxlover12]

Btw flip will coach Minny

 

[jonathanlambert33]

There's nothing that excites me in that offer.

 

[Mexi]

Oh god Dwight

 

[bosoxlover12]

There's nothing that excites me in that offer.

tell me then, what beats that?


And look, I don't even think we will do that well even with Love. He'd put up 25/10 in Boston, with those numbers being inflated. We make the playoffs, as a 6-8 seed, and lose in the 1st round. That's all I'm looking for. Kevin Love isn't a superstar; he's a very good scorer and rebounder, and can help teams win games.

All I know, is that Boston can put up the best package for the Wolves, and Love would be fine playing for the Celtics. I can't see the Bulls trading Taj+Butler+2 1sts for Love when they will probably get Melo instead, and they keep those 4 assets

 

[Mexi]

Parson anf asick

 

[buzzy]

Parson anf asick

0/3

 

[jonathanlambert33]

You're just being a homer if you honestly believe nobody can put together a better offer for Love bosox.

 

[bosoxlover12]

You're just being a homer if you honestly believe nobody can put together a better offer for Love bosox.

again, tell me a better offer.

Dubs aren't moving Klay Thompson, and at this point in their careers, Sully has shown more than Barnes. Lee is a good player, but I doubt Minny wants to be decent, they want good picks.

Lakers literally have nothing assets wise over Boston. Knicks don't even have assets.

Rockets can offer cap space via expirings, but they aren't getting good picks in return. All would be in the 20s. Now that Parsons has been made an RFA, it is a lot harder to trade him, and that would have been their best asset

Kings supposedly could be going all in for Love, and their pick+future 1sts+McLemore would be really nice, probably better than Boston's offer, but I don't see Love wanting to go to Sacramento. For two bad teams (BOS, SAC), Boston has the far better ownership and coaching staff. Plus Love has already said he'd consider Boston due to it's rich history. Kings don't have that.

Bulls can offer Taj+Butler+Boozer, and their two mid teen picks. They'll clean off salary due to boozer, get two solid rotational pieces via the draft, and get a nice pair of players. But Taj isn't a developing player anymore; he's peaked. He's not gonna get much better, and he's too good for them to efficiently tank, which is what I believe they want to do.

Lastly, Phoenix. Suns have more picks than Boston, but Boston's are worth more. Suns have 14, and some 20s, while Boston has 6 and 17, plus others. They would move a Morris as well, who is probably similar to value to Sullinger, but the main thing is that Boston's assets are more valuable than Phoenix's


I really wouldn't even care that much if we didn't get love, I just think Boston has the most assets to move for Minny, and Boston is a place that love would re-sign most likely, which is a huge part to this deal

 

[jonathanlambert33]

There are 29 other possible trade partners in the league for Kevin Love. The idea that the best offer any of those 29 teams can put on the table is Sullinger, Olynyk, #6, and another first or two is idiotic. The fact that you act like you know what teams are offering and who is even available, is also idiotic. But I've been down that road with you more than once.

Look, Sullinger is a fine player. But nobody is knocking down the door for him. I would bet Boston isn't even fielding many calls for him. He won't ever be "the guy" on a team, and I don't think he will ever even be considered a key core piece on a conference contender. Olynyk is decent, he brings some skills you don't always see in big men, but he also does some things that you don't want your big doing. Will he ever be considered a key cog, or even a top big? Whoever the selection at six is, once again, will likely be a role player. The additional firsts are unknown commodities, and how valuable are they if the Celtics do acquire Love?

And since you love the fake trade offers, you are gonna tell me that Houston can't field a better offer? Cleveland? Hell even OKC could put together a better package, though that won't happen.

 

[Pugz]

There are 29 other possible trade partners in the league for Kevin Love. The idea that the best offer any of those 29 teams can put on the table is Sullinger, Olynyk, #6, and another first or two is idiotic. The fact that you act like you know what teams are offering and who is even available, is also idiotic. But I've been down that road with you more than once.

Look, Sullinger is a fine player. But nobody is knocking down the door for him. I would bet Boston isn't even fielding many calls for him. He won't ever be "the guy" on a team, and I don't think he will ever even be considered a key core piece on a conference contender. Olynyk is decent, he brings some skills you don't always see in big men, but he also does some things that you don't want your big doing. Will he ever be considered a key cog, or even a top big? Whoever the selection at six is, once again, will likely be a role player. The additional firsts are unknown commodities, and how valuable are they if the Celtics do acquire Love?

And since you love the fake trade offers, you are gonna tell me that Houston can't field a better offer? Cleveland? Hell even OKC could put together a better package, though that won't happen.

:+1:

 

[BwareDWare94]

Yeah you can certainly make a case

No need for a hahahaha

James hate has to stoooooooop

 
Only when he starts playing on both ends of the floor. 

 

[RipCity32]

By visiting Boston last weekend, Kevin Love opened speculation that he would not only welcome a trade to the Celtics but also be open to signing a long-term contract with the team.
Love is willing to consider the scenario of a trade to the Celtics followed by an extension, according to sources.
However, the Minnesota Timberwolves are less than enamored with what the Celtics can offer them in a potential trade for Love. The Celtics could offer the No. 6 draft pick, the future selections from the Brooklyn Nets, the No. 17 pick and a combination of role players such as Jeff Green and Jared Sullinger.
 
 

 

[Mexi]

I know you didnt call sully a role player

Heeeeeeelllll naw

 

[bosoxlover12]

Whether they are enamored or not, they'd be foolish not to say this. No official trades until the finals end, so they might as well bump up the offers

 

[CameronCrazy06]

ARE YOU NOT ENAMORED

 

[bosoxlover12]

There are 29 other possible trade partners in the league for Kevin Love. The idea that the best offer any of those 29 teams can put on the table is Sullinger, Olynyk, #6, and another first or two is idiotic. The fact that you act like you know what teams are offering and who is even available, is also idiotic. But I've been down that road with you more than once.Look, Sullinger is a fine player. But nobody is knocking down the door for him. I would bet Boston isn't even fielding many calls for him. He won't ever be "the guy" on a team, and I don't think he will ever even be considered a key core piece on a conference contender. Olynyk is decent, he brings some skills you don't always see in big men, but he also does some things that you don't want your big doing. Will he ever be considered a key cog, or even a top big? Whoever the selection at six is, once again, will likely be a role player. The additional firsts are unknown commodities, and how valuable are they if the Celtics do acquire Love?And since you love the fake trade offers, you are gonna tell me that Houston can't field a better offer? Cleveland? Hell even OKC could put together a better package, though that won't happen.

Ok, now you are just reaching for the point here. All 29 other teams looking to trade for him? No, that's not happening. Sure, all the teams would like to have him on their team. But 0% chance all of them put out trade offers for him.

I also do my fucking research on what the media leaks from multiple insiders on their teams. For example, the Dubs like Love, but not enough to part with Klay. The number one trade offer that I've heard, from Wolves fans, that they would like to happen, isn't realistic either. It was Love to Boston, #1 and 6 overall to MIN, and Green/Sully/Olynyk/BKN picks to the Cavs. No chance Cavs do that deal, but that's what Minny fans "realistically" want.

Is the Celtics offer I constantly have mentioned a great deal for the Wolves? No, it's not; I've acknowledged that before. But it's the best deal available for the Timberwolves. They cannot get good assets without Love agreeing to sign an extension. Sure, Cleveland can offer Dion, TT, and the #1 overall pick. But Love probably won't resign in Cleveland, and therefore the Cavs won't trade their #2 and #3 best assets to get him.


Timberwolves want draft picks. So no, Houston isn't a good trade option, since their picks suck as it is. OKC? They have literally nothing to trade: Lamb, Reggie, PJ3, Perk's contract, and some terrible 1sts? Come on.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

So you know every deal that's available to the Wolves? All I'm saying is that's a blanket statement considering you aren't in their front office