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Mike Miller is going to Cleveland so it's a wrap now.

  Did you watch many of his 17 Lions starts?

  One guy has a long track record, seven seasons of 19.0 ppg or higher and a career .455 FG%   The other guy has a five season track record, has been steadily falling off of the face of a cliff since his only 19.0+ ppg season as a rookie, and looks like a completely lost cause.

I still think he's underpaid at 4/40.  People are giving the man flak for believing in himself and doing hard business.  At the end of it all, he had to choose at the last minute to take the long term deal which he felt underpaid him or sit out for the season.  He was never going to play on that...

In the summer, everyone is looking for a reason to throw a bbq/pool party.  I'm feeling like a "The Rodney Stuckey Era Is Over" party.  Is anyone as not shocked as I am that he seems to be getting very little interest in free agency especially in this FA period were rotational players are being...

  Ginobili which you quoted me on, sorry, I should have quoted you back.

  Yeah, what the fuck.

  It's hard to make sense of THIS poll though.  These guys are all over the place, a lot of them are enigmas.  Reggie Miller isn't exactly on there.  And I can't disagree more about him having some inflated raw stats that distort his perceived value.  The guy's resume is incredibly thick and I...

Manu can't get no respect.

Somebody at ESPN pulled Berman into their office and said "Chris, 'back back back back' was kind of cute at the start, but it's all over now.  No mas.".  

Back back back back back back back back back back back back .   Kill me.

He could have been better than a solid slot guy, he was incredibly dynamic in his short career.  I think he could have had a career similar to Steve Smith.  I honestly feel really bad for the guy.  I don't think this is a Charles Rogers or Josh Gordon situation where Young just straight up...

Obviously every NFL fan is rooting for this to happen, we all want to watch great players play.  If it doesn't happen, he shouldn't suit up this season.

  Yeah, basically the same exact point I had, typed at the same time as I was typing it.  A Piston fan understands the environment a lot more than an outside fan does.  There's a toxicity here that is hard to overcome.  

  Well you just acknowledged yourself that a team like the Pistons and Pelicans are very reliant on trades.  This Pistons team isn't going to build itself through free agency.  The best thing they can do is try to add beneficial players to the roster in free agency and probably overpay for them...

Nola, your biggest mistake is assuming anyone wants to sign here.  They don't.  And the fans haven't been driving 20 miles up the expressway to go to the games in about 6 seasons.  Wiping out the entire staff and front office and then remaining patient and throwing another season away would be...

  It's like white rimmed sunglasses.  You have to do it.

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Let us have fun, it's been a long, painful road.

Caron Butler is also a Piston.