Reggie Wayne Fumes Over Lack Of Targets

[RipCity32]

If Stafford stays healthy he will be a franchise QB.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

A franchise QB is a guy that can lead his team, and will be an elite quarterback. He'll actually play games, and he'll do something productive for the team.
How the fuck do you have Tony Romo, Matt Stafford, Sam Bradford, Matt Cassel, or Josh Freeman listed as franchise quarterbacks.
Romo is good for one thing. Choking, and being hurt. And if you're so critical of Peyton being a choker, then why the fuck do you list him on there? At least Peyton can stay healthy. Matt Cassel, as proven today, is not a franchise quarterback worth a shit and a half. A franchise guy will LEAD his team, and give them a chance at winning. Cassel is not that guy.

The others have potential to be there, but are not there yet. And honestly, Stafford already scares me with his injuries.



Back to the topic of WRs- I forgot that you guys had such a great year.

And what are you talking about? A franchise QB is a QB that the franchise has committed to. Romo IS a franchise QB, as is Braford, Freeman, etc. You don't know what your talking about.

 

[Oiler35]

If Stafford stays healthy he will be a franchise QB.

Right on, but it's easier when you have Megatron, lol.

And what are you talking about? A franchise QB is a QB that the franchise has committed to. Romo IS a franchise QB, as is Braford, Freeman, etc. You don't know what your talking about.

Romo is not a franchise quarterback. Where has he taken his team? Absolutely no where. Where was he this year? On the bench. Where did he taken them last year? No where. Until he takes them DEEP into the playoffs, he's not a franchise quarterback. The team is not built around him, when they have a stellar run game that is well utilized.
The rest of them, it's too early to tell. They have tonnes of potential to be franchise quarterbacks, but they haven't reached that yet.

 

[Elite]

This isn't the regular season anymore. Both teams have more than two rings this century. To the Jets zero.

I think that may give them a bit of an edge. But then again, so does the absolute sluaghter of New York in the last game against New England.

Let's not forget that the Colts barely won their division and New York beat them on a field goal as time expired.

What does it matter whether this is the regular season or the postseason and how many rings they have this century? The Bucs have a ring this century and they're sitting on their couches.

The Saints shit on the Seahawks during the regular season, worked out well for them in the playoffs.

Let's not forget that everyone was also picking the Colts to win this game and the Jets won despite shoddy QB play.

 

[footballplaya52]

And what are you talking about? A franchise QB is a QB that the franchise has committed to.

i agree with this man.

 

[Elite]

Right on, but it's easier when you have Megatron, lol.


Romo is not a franchise quarterback. Where has he taken his team? Absolutely no where. Where was he this year? On the bench. Where did he taken them last year? No where. Until he takes them DEEP into the playoffs, he's not a franchise quarterback. The team is not built around him, when they have a stellar run game that is well utilized.
The rest of them, it's too early to tell. They have tonnes of potential to be franchise quarterbacks, but they haven't reached that yet.

There is a difference between a FRANCHISE QB and a GOOD/GREAT/ELITE QB. You're mixing the two as one.

 

[Oiler35]

There is a difference between a FRANCHISE QB and a GOOD/GREAT/ELITE QB. You're mixing the two as one.

The team is not built around him

Better for you?

 

[Blake]

What does it matter whether this is the regular season or the postseason and how many rings they have this century? The Bucs have a ring this century and they're sitting on their couches.

The Saints shit on the Seahawks during the regular season, worked out well for them in the playoffs.

Let's not forget that everyone was also picking the Colts to win this game and the Jets won despite shoddy QB play.

The Jets' were in the same position as Tampa two seasons ago. It matters in that we all know the Patriots and Steelers are clutch in the playoffs.

The Saints' had the ball in the red zone seven times, that may be a tribute to the Seahawks line -- or -- the simple fact that they were missing their best runningback(s).

The Colts were playing with a basic practice squad, the Jets had basically their full team and won by a field goal. Get over yourself.

 

[Elite]

The Jets' were in the same position as Tampa two seasons ago. It matters in that we all know the Patriots and Steelers are clutch in the playoffs.

The Saints' had the ball in the red zone seven times, that may be a tribute to the Seahawks line -- or -- the simple fact that they were missing their best runningback(s).

The Colts were playing with a basic practice squad, the Jets had basically their full team and won by a field goal. Get over yourself.

Oh yeah, the Pats are so clutch in the playoffs, 2007 showed just how clutch they were. I don't give a shit about their teams in the earlier part of the decade because their roster is completely different outside of Brady and maybe another player or two.

They were missing Pierre Thomas who was a nobody and still would be if the Saints didn't have such a great passing attack. He isn't going to make a difference.

I don't give a shit if a team has injuries or not. The Jets have been missing Kris Jenkins since the first game of the season, one of the best DTs in football. We're missing the heart and soul of our defense in Jim Leonhard who is also the signal caller. To hold the Colts to as many points as we did yesterday is a great feat since they're one of the best offensive teams in the league.

 

[The Guid]

Oh yeah, the Pats are so clutch in the playoffs, 2007 showed just how clutch they were. I don't give a shit about their teams in the earlier part of the decade because their roster is completely different outside of Brady and maybe another player or two.

It's not the same team from 2007 either...just in case you didn't realize that was 3 years ago.

 

[Elite]

It's not the same team from 2007 either...just in case you didn't realize that was 3 years ago.

Still a decent amount of guys from that team still there.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Right on, but it's easier when you have Megatron, lol.


Romo is not a franchise quarterback. Where has he taken his team? Absolutely no where. Where was he this year? On the bench. Where did he taken them last year? No where. Until he takes them DEEP into the playoffs, he's not a franchise quarterback. The team is not built around him, when they have a stellar run game that is well utilized.
The rest of them, it's too early to tell. They have tonnes of potential to be franchise quarterbacks, but they haven't reached that yet.

So he's not a franchise QB because he was hurt? That's a terrible argument - Brady missed 15 games in 2008; I guess he wasn't the franchise QB. Since when does a DEEP playoff run constitute being a franchise QB? It may constitute being a great QB, but the Cowboys signed Romo to a very long extension; they are committed to him to be the QB of their team for many years to come. Their running game is not steller by the way, what are you talking about?!? They were 16th in the league in rushing this year, hardly stellar. Romo is a very good QB, on the verge of becoming great. But that has nothing to do with the fact that he is the Dallas Cowboys' franchise QB...

 

[Elite]

Gotta love it when guys just negative rep you yet make no attempt to form a counter-argument.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

The Heat suck though...

 

[Elite]

29-8 > 25-12

 

[The Guid]

Just to clear it up, I'm not not the one who neg repped you (nor am I accusing you of calling me out).

And, obviously, there are some key guys still around (Welker, Brady, o-line, some others) but this is definitely a different looking team than that one. No Moss and a new offense. Totally different looking defense. Guys like Chung, Butler, McCourty, Meriweather, etc, were not around for that game.

Not saying this team is better or worse. Just that it is, in fact, much different.

 

[Blake]

Oh yeah, the Pats are so clutch in the playoffs, 2007 showed just how clutch they were. I don't give a shit about their teams in the earlier part of the decade because their roster is completely different outside of Brady and maybe another player or two.

They were missing Pierre Thomas who was a nobody and still would be if the Saints didn't have such a great passing attack. He isn't going to make a difference.

I don't give a shit if a team has injuries or not. The Jets have been missing Kris Jenkins since the first game of the season, one of the best DTs in football. We're missing the heart and soul of our defense in Jim Leonhard who is also the signal caller. To hold the Colts to as many points as we did yesterday is a great feat since they're one of the best offensive teams in the league.

In 2007, New England set NFL records, won all but one game the entire season and made it to the SuperBowl. The Jets' haven't been in a superbowl since the 60's. The roster may be different, but they still have Brady and Bill -- I'm sure that's about all they need. Look at Branch, he was terrible in Seattle. He has started more games this season in New England than he did in Seattle in the past two season. He also has two more touchdowns than he did in those two seasons as a Patriot.

Pierre Thomas last season rushed for more yards than your boy LT and Shonn Greene. He had a higher yards per carry average and just two fumbles. He started in 14 games.

We all know that the Colts offense has been in a downward spiral. They had a total of five defensive backs on the injured list. So don't think that the New York passing attack accomplished much -- clearly they didn't.

Sanchez will choke, it's a matter of time. This isn't the same Patriots team that New York beat early in the season, the momentum has changed. That fucking offense is ferocious, and there is no way in hell the Jets can stop it.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

29-8 > 25-12

I'll wait until the playoffs. The Magic have played a harder schedule and the series is tied 1-1. Both teams went through growing pains while adjusting their lineups. (The Magic after the trade especially)

 

[The Young One]

A franchise QB is a guy that can lead his team, and will be an elite quarterback. He'll actually play games, and he'll do something productive for the team.
How the fuck do you have Tony Romo, Matt Stafford, Sam Bradford, Matt Cassel, or Josh Freeman listed as franchise quarterbacks.
Romo is good for one thing. Choking, and being hurt. And if you're so critical of Peyton being a choker, then why the fuck do you list him on there? At least Peyton can stay healthy. Matt Cassel, as proven today, is not a franchise quarterback worth a shit and a half. A franchise guy will LEAD his team, and give them a chance at winning. Cassel is not that guy.

The others have potential to be there, but are not there yet. And honestly, Stafford already scares me with his injuries.



Back to the topic of WRs- I forgot that you guys had such a great year.

Matt was 27/7 this year. Anybody on this forum would be delighted if their QB puts up those numbers. I was disappointed in his play in the game. But I'm not gonna give up on him after thinking about how we literally signed a dude off the street and started him in Kevin Curtis and how D-Bowe was on the back of a milk carton today and how Mccluster is almost worthless.

Now back to the Colts and Jags debate....

 

[The Edge]

I don't understand how Wayne can be mad. I mean maybe if Manning wasn't having a good game but the guy put up a passer rating nearly 15 points higher than his career average and 20 points higher than what he averages in the playoffs.

Manning did as much as he could do to that defense. Bill Simmons summed them up well when saying that Manning didn't have anything around him, he has 2 receivers who can run deep and go get the ball and 2 pass rushing defensive ends, aside from that it was team of total crap and what didn't help things was the poor game management by Jim Caldwell.