Who Will Be The Top 5 Players In Five Years?

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nolafan33 said:
Bosox, there are so many holes in your argument.

And I'm sorry but if you think Drummond can be a 25 ppg scorer your an idiot. I don't think Sal would even go the far.
calling someone an idiot and not even spelling right.

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BwareDWare94 said:
 
I think it's the way you present your opinion. It always comes off as "my guy is soo good and yours has faults." All they're trying to say is that Drummond is definitely in the discussion with AD. Some of us think he's a better player, or a better prospect. Until Davis attains his NBA body, I think Drummond has the edge because he's already physically ready.
correct.

100% correct.
 

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nolafan33 said:
So you don't think the per 36 minutes argument has a hole in it when Davis played against starters and Drummond came off the bench and played mostly against bench players? Come on man.
 
You're equating the time he enters the game to the time that the other team subbed players, but is there any proof of that? I saw him on the court with both starters and reserves, at times. Who cares?
 

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Hurricane said:
Or the extra minutes could have wore him down. You never know how a player is going to respond to an increased workload... Especially a young player.
 
This is true, but why start a career backup over a guy who proved he was ready within 10 games? After so long, it made no sense to not start him, and to top him out at 20 minutes, almost exactly. 
 

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Also, Monroe is not a center. It's time to put him at the 4, where he belongs. They'll just have to hope they can get Smoove to play the 3 effectively.
 

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BwareDWare94 said:
Also, Monroe is not a center. It's time to put him at the 4, where he belongs. They'll just have to hope they can get Smoove to play the 3 effectively.
i guess we plan on moving the three of them around. its more or less position less.
 

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nolafan33 said:
So you don't think the per 36 minutes argument has a hole in it when Davis played against starters and Drummond came off the bench and played mostly against bench players? Come on man.
the majority of Drummonds minutes were with the 1st unit (Monroe/Singler/Stuckey/Knight)
 

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nolafan33 said:
Great response man.
ive already explained everything as to why you'RE a homer. i have many times before and will again. what else do i need to explain, man?
 

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nola, maybe you don't see it.
 
 
You are to Anthony Davis as I am to Tom Brady, how Sal is to Miguel Cabrera, as Mexi is to James Harden. You ALWAYS think they are better than everyone else in their competition
 

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You can call me a homer all you want.

My point still stands. Anthony Davis is far more skilled and has a brighter future than Andre Drummond, for a number of reasons that are pretty straight forward and easy to see. I'll keep it at that, you are free to believe what you want.
 

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Papa Pugz said:
i guess we plan on moving the three of them around. its more or less position less.
 
Well they can't put one on the bench. No way in hell. 
 

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nolafan33 said:
You can call me a homer all you want. My point still stands. Anthony Davis is far more skilled and has a brighter future than Andre Drummond, for a number of reasons that are pretty straight forward and easy to see. I'll keep it at that, you are free to believe what you want.
 
You're opinion of "far more skilled" Is rooted primarily in his offensive potential. What else is Davis much better at, as of now? I can't really think of anything. Some positions, in this league, have become more valuable defensively, too, and a center that can control the paint or change momentum with one play (while still scoring probably 10-15 a night with a 20-25 pointer sprinkled in here and there, could easily be more valuable than a good scorer with lesser skills in every other category. 
 
And there you're at it again. Is, is, is, not "I think this" or "I think that." Nothing in this argument is definitive. They're second year players.
 

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BwareDWare94 said:
 
Well they can't put one on the bench. No way in hell. 
theyll all start bit foul trouble and stamina will cause them to shift around.
 

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nola, maybe you don't see it.


You are to Anthony Davis as I am to Tom Brady, how Sal is to Miguel Cabrera, as Mexi is to James Harden. You ALWAYS think they are better than everyone else in their competition
There are a number of guys I would take over Davis right now at PF. I'm sure you don't feel the same about Brady.

Let me break it down like this. I agree with Rob that Drummond will be an elite d big. I'm sure we all agree that Davis will be too. I agree with Rob that Drummond can be an above average offensive big. I think Davis will be better than above average offensively. Couple that with the fact that Davis versatility to defend multiple positions, and his versatile offensive game. Then yes, Davis > Drummond
 

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Smith/Monroe/Drummond even though I don't like Smith at the 3 offensively.
 

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drummond isnt just a shut down the paint big, though. hes going to be able to stretch out and still have decent enough defense. he also has an underrated handle and passing intangibles.
 

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Have people forgotten what kind of player Davis was at Kentucky, where he went in the draft, the potential he showed last year? Nola talks him up for good reason, he has legitimate potential to be the best big in the NBA. He has a jumper that extends to the 3PT line, he's quicker than most his size, can use both hands, über athletic, good touch, good passer, can handle the ball for his size, potential to be an elite shot blocker and all around defender. He has everything. Once he has distinguished post moves, it's over.

My one problem is sometimes he looks a little awkward out there but it's because of how lanky he is.

He brings him up a lot, but so would you if he was on your favorite team.
 

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nolafan33 said:
Smith/Monroe/Drummond even though I don't like Smith at the 3 offensively.
smith at the 3 scares me so much but the defensive potential the three have is pretty nice to think about.
 

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