Official Wrestling Talk Thread

[Pugz]

Doesn't really matter. Rusev eventually had to change his character. Fans already don't care about him, and while some of that is losing to Cena, most of it is just his character. 

exactly

 

[CameronCrazy06]

If by change his character you mean become a jobber than sure. You joke about HHH but you never give Cena the true burial credit he deserves. He might be worse than HHH. How many times have you seen him get pinned CLEAN? Everything he touches dies. Maybe he's not the shovel, but he sure as hell is a plague

 

[Big Bid'Ness]

Looks like Harper and Rowan are getting back together

 

[Big Bid'Ness]

I would give Vince the true burial credits for Cena where on the other hand, trips was alllll his because he wouldn't put a blanket over  him even if he was sleeping.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

At least Triple H gets that power because he's fucking the daughter of the boss haha. Cena has it for no reason

 

[elcheato]

If by change his character you mean become a jobber than sure. You joke about HHH but you never give Cena the true burial credit he deserves. He might be worse than HHH. How many times have you seen him get pinned CLEAN? Everything he touches dies. Maybe he's not the shovel, but he sure as hell is a plague

He's been pinned clean probably more than any true "face of the company" has. I don't like Cena, but I recognize he wont lose clean often. Triple H went on a reign of terror once Stone Cold and The Rock left. The dude puts himself over everyone. 

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Triple H put the Shield over big time last year.
 
Why don't you tell me the last time Cena put someone over.

 

[Big Bid'Ness]

At least Triple H gets that power because he's fucking the daughter of the boss haha. Cena has it for no reason

 
Well Cena actually does have a reason because he's the top guy, Vince's top money maker. But with Cena he is willing to put over the younger guys but it is Vince who is the one that doesn't want him to lose.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

I'm legitimately trying to think of the last time someone went over Cena and struggling

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Didn't he beat the Nexus like 1-on-6?

 

[Big Bid'Ness]

Triple H put the Shield over big time last year.
 
Why don't you tell me the last time Cena put someone over.

 
Man Trips is barely an active performer lol. He's is doing things the business way since he exec now. We're talking about when he was a fully active performer.

 

[Big Bid'Ness]

I'm legitimately trying to think of the last time someone went over Cena and struggling

 
If we're talking clean pin fall it would still be Daniel Bryan at Summerslam 2013

 

[CameronCrazy06]

 
Man Trips is barely an active performer lol. He's is doing things the business way since he exec now. We're talking about when he was a fully active performer.

 
At least Triple H is good in the ring? Cena is terrible at everything. 
 
HHH never had a year long+ reign either

 

[Big Bid'Ness]

 
At least Triple H is good in the ring? Cena is terrible at everything. 
 
HHH never had a year long+ reign either

 
Triple H had a reign of terror on Raw from 2002 to 2005 it was alllllllllllllllllll him lol. Guys wanted to move to smackdown because of him. If you was a WCW guy going for his WHC, he wasn't going to put you over.

 

[Pugz]

Triple H put the Shield over big time last year.
 
Why don't you tell me the last time Cena put someone over.

they had plans for the shield to be huge singles before that match though.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

And HHH putting them over was a part of the plan and he did that

 

[CameronCrazy06]

 
Triple H had a reign of terror on Raw from 2002 to 2005 it was alllllllllllllllllll him lol. Guys wanted to move to smackdown because of him. If you was a WCW guy going for his WHC, he wasn't going to put you over.

 
John Cena doesn't care where you come from. He's pinning you lol

 

[elcheato]

Triple H put the Shield over big time last year.
 
Why don't you tell me the last time Cena put someone over.

Triple H is nearly 50 and hasn't been full time in a while. 

 

[elcheato]

 

If we're talking clean pin fall it would still be Daniel Bryan at Summerslam 2013

And this was before the whole yes movement. It was huge for his career, DESPITE Triple H killing his momentum no less than 5 minutes after. 

 

[elcheato]

Cena (as the face of the company) has lost clean to Bryan, Punk, Triple H multiple times, Batista a couple times, Shawn Michaels, The Rock, Lesnar absolutely demolished him (something like that has never happened to the true face), I assume Orton has beaten him clean at least once, he's been pinned clean in a couple tag matches and triple threat matches. 

 

He has also cleanly put over Sheamus, Orton, JBL and others in gimmick matches. 
 

Triple H putting over guys now isn't even close to what you're trying to argue with Cena. Not to mention, Triple H as a retired, part timer has gone over Lesnar & Punk, and has given himself a championship match.