Lockout News Thread

[jonathanlambert33]

They are acting like a bunch of high schoolers. Bickering back and forth and pointing fingers.

"The NBA is trying to pressure us like bullies." Boo-wo. Cry me a river and wipe them away with your millions of dollars you already have.

I heard the NBA wants no sign-and-trades or MLEs for taxpaying teams (teams that are over the cap)

I'm fine with that, if your over the cap, you should be punished more than a tax.

That's what they should do.

 

[DJT]

I'm hearing some players may try to make a push to accept the current deal. (including Kobe)

The NBA may try to sweeten it a little bit by altering some of the system issues.

But the NBA will not offer the players anything over the current deal...ever. So

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Shit's really starting to get real, and Wednesday could make or break the season. The union has till the close of business on Wednesday to vote and accept the owners deal.

After that, the deal gets worse. It goes from whatever the owners are offering, to 47% and a hard cap and other things that are farther from the current system. Now you know the players will never agree to that, season lost?

 

[elcheato]

I think it's more of a scare tactic, but the season is definitley in jeopardy if the deal isn't done by Wednesday. And the union wont even put up the deal on a vote because they known the majority of the players would be fine with it cause they just want to play

 

[jonathanlambert33]

I think it's more of a scare tactic, but the season is definitley in jeopardy if the deal isn't done by Wednesday. And the union wont even put up the deal on a vote because they known the majority of the players would be fine with it cause they just want to play

I think it serves that purpose (scare tactic), but I don't think that's the owners first intention. I really believe they will drop everything that low if the players don't take the deal that is on the table.

There have been multiple articles out this week from Hockey players who lost a season to get a worse deal that are telling the NBA players it isn't worth it. But in typical union fashion, they don't even want to let the players vote on the deal. It amazes me that the union supposedly represents the players but refuses to put proposals to a vote because the star players (the minority) do not like them. Does the union not represent ALL players?

 

[DJT]

Yeah, that is what I can't figure out. The union seems to be doing their own thing (mainly Hunter and Fisher's thing)

I mean if they had the players vote on the deal or not, they would EASILY accept the deal.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

They should vote on every proposal the owners send.

We're losing games fast, the Hornets have already lost 3 games and would have traveled to LA to face the Lakers last night.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Lol you don't need to worry about "games lost" because we're gonna lose a damn lot of them.

 

[Mexi]

how hilarious is it to see Steve Blake irate at the NBAPA and Fisher?

then imagine a deal is made and they're still teammates and will probably be battling for starting pg, but im getting ahead of myself because this lockout is very selfish

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Lol at the thought of Steve Blake and Derek Fisher battling for a STARTING job in the NBA.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

This speaks volumes imo.

Sports Illustrated's Sam Amick spoke to two agents who represent a combined 19 NBA players.

The agents said all 19 players are in favor of taking the owners' current offer.

Also read this:

The New York Times obtained a copy of the letter from David Stern to his counterpart, Billy Hunter, detailing the league's ultimatum to the players: Accept our current offer by Wednesday or face much less friendly terms.

“Rather than simply proceeding, as we could have, to offer a less favorable proposal at this time, the N.B.A. is providing an additional period of time for the players association to consider our 50/50 proposal,” Stern wrote.

The “reset” proposal that the league would revert to after Wednesday includes a flex-cap system with a salary cap set at $5 million above the average team salary and rollbacks on existing contracts “in proportion to system changes in order to ensure sufficient market for free agents.”

Stern ends the letter, “Billy, I sincerely hope that we can reach an agreement over the next few days.”

Wednesday could be the last day the players see an offer that favorable to them from the NBA.

"If players don't accept 50 (percent of basketball-related income) by Wednesday, they'll never see it again -- at least not for a few years," a league source tells Chris Broussard.

 

[RipCity32]

It blows my mind that a 50/50 split isn't accepted yet.

 

[elcheato]

The players are somewhat satisfied with BRI split, they just don't like the system now because it punishes tax paying teams.

 

[RipCity32]

As it should lol.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

I agree, it's a messed up system. What's the point of having a cap if you can exceed it?

 

[RipCity32]

I mean, if you can afford to pay over the tax, might as well not have a luxury tax, cause these owners are so rich it doesn't affect them lol.

Put some actual punishment in place.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

I mean, if you can afford to pay over the tax, might as well not have a luxury tax, cause these owners are so rich it doesn't affect them lol.

Put some actual punishment in place.

Yep, and lets not forget the advantage some owners have in being able to GREATLY exceed the tax when some can barely afford to go over it. Now that's an unfair advantage.

 

[RipCity32]

It's basically like baseball lol.
Only the salary cap is like that push over teacher that you can get away with shit with lol.

 

[elcheato]

Well there was some punishment on the old CBA, it just was very little. In Baseball there is literally nothing, other then revenue sharing and losing draft picks.

 

[DJT]

I'm hearing some owners may not even accept this deal )aka MJ, the Bucks, the Blazers...etc)

If by some lucky reason the players accept this deal only to have MJ and his gang reject it, i'ma be soooo pissed.

But I don't think that will happen.

Anyone else find it weird that there are only 30 player reps??? I mean yes 1 per team, but I mean even on teams guys want something different...