2017 NFL Gameday Thread

[bosoxlover12]

send me a natty light and well take him

 

[A.E]

SportsCenter is what made ESPN what it is but phone alerts and social media killed the need for it. I remember watching SC at
Least 3 times in a morning but now, I only tune into ESPN for CFB and 30 For 30.

The NFL overall is a sinking ship. The product has long been diluted, market oversaturated and just some awful quarterback play. The game was better when multi-millionaire players weren’t trying to be social justice warriors and martyrs. It was better when we really didn’t know who owners were or saw the commissioner in multiple headlines. Players are softer and all best of friends, regardless of team. I’m sorry but the game was so much better when players on diff teams genuinely didn’t like each other. Now they smile and trade jerseys after games.

The NFL built quite the empire but they’ve gotten too greedy. At this point the league only starts to lose more w/o wholesale changes.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Huh?
 
And they have a number of good radio programs. And other companies acquiring distributions rights has done what exactly? Cause no one has emerged as a potential threat to ESPN. Again, what are they supposed to do? The opinion shows are the only ones that aren't easily replaced by the internet

its just like WWE If they're Going to continue to make business decisions that are terrible for the product then I'm not going to feel sorry for it as it deteriorates

 

[Pugz]

its just like WWE If they're Going to continue to make business decisions that are terrible for the product then I'm not going to feel sorry for it as it deteriorates

 

[BNC]

its just like WWE If they're Going to continue to make business decisions that are terrible for the product then I'm not going to feel sorry for it as it deteriorates

Again, what are they supposed to do? The internet completely eliminated the need for sportscenter

 

[bosoxlover12]

thats not true. just need it to be more discussion based and less debates/brand focused


like GMFB on NFLN is awesome imo. granted im impartial because im in love with kay adams, but its a really good show for football discussion

if espn reverted to their older days (like how gmfb is currently) itd do better. all they do is argue at each other now

 

[Giantmetfan07]

Idk bnc, maybe change? Most of their daytime programming is watered down hot takes of the same 6 topics.

Get creative, be informative and actually teach your viewers about the sports they watch. Be worth my fucking time. It's not hard to figure out.

Also no, I don't think a lot of people like Hill.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Watch MLB network if you want to see how a sports channel should be run. And that's with just one sport to focus on

 

[A.E]

ESPN going very left wing definitely doesn't help. They shit-can Curt Schilling but tolerate Jamele Hill. You can agree or disagree with either.... but it doesn't make any business sense to alienate half of your viewers. Republicans grew up watching Sports Center too. I don't think it's always possible to avoid political discussions, but on-air talent shouldn't be flaming to one side of the aisle or the other. 

 

[Big Bid'Ness]

Siemian coming through in the Clutch for KC

 

[BNC]

ESPN going very left wing definitely doesn't help. They shit-can Curt Schilling but tolerate Jamele Hill. You can agree or disagree with either.... but it doesn't make any business sense to alienate half of your viewers. Republicans grew up watching Sports Center too. I don't think it's always possible to avoid political discussions, but on-air talent shouldn't be flaming to one side of the aisle or the other. 

Those situations weren't exactly similar and Jamele was actually treated similarly to Schilling. They both received warnings for the political posts on social media and received warnings followed by suspensions, Schilling persisted and was fired, as for Jamelle we'll see. (although if we're grading on a curve Schilling has been far worse, and I don't even like Hill)

 

[BNC]

thats not true. just need it to be more discussion based and less debates/brand focused


like GMFB on NFLN is awesome imo. granted im impartial because im in love with kay adams, but its a really good show for football discussion

if espn reverted to their older days (like how gmfb is currently) itd do better. all they do is argue at each other now

I think the argument based shows hit a certain target audience that likes that, I used to love the debate shows and I know lots of people still do, but it can definitely come off as disingenuous because you need both guys to take a different side for it to work. I'm really excited to see what Bomani and Pablo Torre's show is gonna be about because I think it'll be more of a discussion based show that you're wanting here and this one is gonna have probably the two smartest people at the network on it.
 
I think the main problem is they have 2 channels dedicated to 24 hours of sports in a day when there's really not enough sports to justify that much coverage

 

[A.E]

Those situations weren't exactly similar and Jamele was actually treated similarly to Schilling. They both received warnings for the political posts on social media and received warnings followed by suspensions, Schilling persisted and was fired, as for Jamelle we'll see. (although if we're grading on a curve Schilling has been far worse, and I don't even like Hill)

Schilling wasn't given any formal warning that I'm aware of. And if we're grading, I'd say calling the POTUS a racist is worse than criticizing the NC bathroom law. Either way, this isn't the kind of shit people want to hear when they tune into ESPN or follow their talent on social media.  I love seeing on air talent get butthurt when they're told to "stick to sports", as if they're being told not to have an opinion. 
 
Nope, what we're telling you is that we didn't make your asses famous because of your astute political opinions.

 

[BNC]

Schilling wasn't given any formal warning that I'm aware of. And if we're grading, I'd say calling the POTUS a racist is worse than criticizing the NC bathroom law. Either way, this isn't the kind of shit people want to hear when they tune into ESPN or follow their talent on social media.  I love seeing on air talent get butthurt when they're told to "stick to sports", as if they're being told not to have an opinion. 
 
Nope, what we're telling you is that we didn't make your asses famous because of your astute political opinions.

I mean, that's not the only thing Schilling said, but the fact that that's all you point to is telling

 

[A.E]

I think the argument based shows hit a certain target audience that likes that, I used to love the debate shows and I know lots of people still do, but it can definitely come off as disingenuous because you need both guys to take a different side for it to work. I'm really excited to see what Bomani and Pablo Torre's show is gonna be about because I think it'll be more of a discussion based show that you're wanting here and this one is gonna have probably the two smartest people at the network on it.
 
I think the main problem is they have 2 channels dedicated to 24 hours of sports in a day when there's really not enough sports to justify that much coverage

I can agree with some of this. The debate format was better when it was organic and genuine. Not only has certain "talent" become purposely obnoxious for the sake of attracting attention, but the quest to become the next Stuart Scott has turned the network into a bunch of parody acts. 
 
You know shit is bad when they bring in Barstool talent, a company built to spite ESPN, and then turnaround and say "never mind". 

 

[A.E]

I mean, that's not the only thing Schilling said, but the fact that that's all you point to is telling

Not sure what you're implying. But tell me what else did Schilling said that was politically controversial, while still employed by ESPN? 

 

[BNC]

I can agree with some of this. The debate format was better when it was organic and genuine. Not only has certain "talent" become purposely obnoxious for the sake of attracting attention, but the quest to become the next Stuart Scott has turned the network into a bunch of parody acts. 
 
You know shit is bad when they bring in Barstool talent, a company built to spite ESPN, and then turnaround and say "never mind". 

Well they can easily associate themselves with PMT, Barstool on the other hand.. not so much. PMT should leave Barstool if they want to continue to grow.
 
And people hate Stephen A, but he is very good at what he does and people still enjoy watching that

 

[BNC]

Not sure what you're implying. But tell me what else did Schilling said that was politically controversial, while still employed by ESPN? 

You can use google

 

[BNC]

Anyway, here's proof of a warning:
 
"After his suspension last season, Jessica Mendoza replaced Schilling on ESPN’s marquee “Sunday Night Baseball” broadcasts. He was subsequently reassigned to the network’s games on Monday nights.
Last month, he waded into politics on a Kansas City radio station when he suggested that Hillary Clinton “should be buried under a jail somewhere” if she gave “classified information on hundreds if not thousands of emails on a public server, after what happened to General Petraeus.”
Last year, David H. Petraeus, a former C.I.A. director and a top general in the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, was sentenced to two years’ probation by a federal judge for providing classified information to a woman with whom he was having an affair.
Analysts said ESPN was left with little choice after Schilling’s repeated offenses."
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/21/sports/baseball/curt-schilling-is-fired-by-espn.html

 

[A.E]

Well they can easily associate themselves with PMT, Barstool on the other hand.. not so much. PMT should leave Barstool if they want to continue to grow.
 
And people hate Stephen A, but he is very good at what he does and people still enjoy watching that

Big Cat and PFT should leave Barstool and do what? Be censored to high hell by Disney's conglomerate? No thanks. This ESPN fiasco has only strengthened the Barstool brand. 
 

You can use google

I don't have to, I lived through it. Schilling was fired for sharing a Facebook post that was in response of the NC bathroom laws, a political cartoon or a meme, if I remember correct. I did forget he was suspended once for a Tweet that compared radical Muslims to Nazis, but ESPN's problem wasn't the message but rather the content and timing of it.  There's nothing wrong with comparing state-controlled genocide but the time tweet about it isn't while covering the Little League World Series.
 
Anything else?