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They also had a 55% win percentage when he played and a 60% win percentage when he and AD played.  37% win percentage when he did not play.
 
Is the difference that drastic if you add Danny Green to the roster?
 

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I'd just like to point out that the Spurs are a far better team than the Pelicans. That's the side of the argument bosox is ignoring. Ryan Anderson is more important to his team because his team isn't very good. They need him to play well. Danny Green isn't even one of the top two wings on his team.
 

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CameronCrazy06 said:
I'd just like to point out that the Spurs are a far better team than the Pelicans. That's the side of the argument bosox is ignoring. Ryan Anderson is more important to his team because his team isn't very good. They need him to play well. Danny Green isn't even one of the top two wings on his team.
Agreed 100%. But again, it's bosox so it's kind of expected.
 

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nolafan33 said:
There is no way in hell Danny Green is as important to the Spurs as Ryan Anderson is to the Pelicans because of the team he plays for.  That's just such a bosox statement.
That's not at all what I said lmaoo

I said green is the better player. No shit Green means less for the World Champion Spurs than the 4th worst team in the West.
 

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bosoxlover12 said:
That's not at all what I said lmaoo

I said green is the better player. No shit Green means less for the World Champion Spurs than the 4th worst team in the West.
The only person who can read this any different from what it actually says is you. Somehow.
bosoxlover12 said:
He's no more important than Danny Green
Another post (stocked with misinformation once again):
Danny Green is a 3PT shooter like Anderson, but Green is actually a good defender, especially in transition. Anderson as a bigman does nothing better than any other average big really. His 3PT shooting is what makes him good, but Green is just as good
Like CC said most people don't equate your posts with the truth anyway so I don't know why I'm wasting my time with you. Your obvious lack of anything truthful about anything outside the Celtics is on full display right now. But by all means, keep trying to cover up your ignorance and stupidity.
 

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Eleftherios Bochoridis, a Greek prospect withdrew from the draft.

What a fucking name.
 

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RipCity32 said:
Eleftherios Bochoridis, a Greek prospect withdrew from the draft.

What a fucking name.
How in the blue fuck would you pronounce that?
 

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Me vs the Blazers
Or nola vs the 2014 draft class
 

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The correct answer is we all lose no matter what
 

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nolafan33 said:
Like CC said most people don't equate your posts with the truth anyway so I don't know why I'm wasting my time with you. Your obvious lack of anything truthful about anything outside the Celtics is on full display right now. But by all means, keep trying to cover up your ignorance and stupidity.
 

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The more I watch of Exum. The more I think he's a star...
 

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Mexi said:
Me vs the Blazers
Or nola vs the 2014 draft class
I don't have anything against this draft class, it's a good class and 10x better than last years class, it's just not this elite draft class like people seem to think it is.
 

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4 franchise players/star players, 4-5 starters, and then a lot of role players. It's deep from picks 11-20
 

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bosoxlover12 said:
4 franchise players/star players, 4-5 starters, and then a lot of role players. It's deep from picks 11-20
My point exactly. There are not 4 TRUE franchise players in this draft.

There seems to be a consensus top 4, but they all aren't franchise players.
 

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So what? In 2012, it was Davis and MKG that were considered that, but Drummond and Lillard stepped up. Kyrie was the only one in 2011.

2010 had 4, but ET and Favors have fallen out in favor of Paul George


For all we know, Nik Stauskas becomes Ray Allen, and becomes the face of the Hormets. I think there could be a ton of stars in any draft
 

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bosoxlover12 said:
So what? In 2012, it was Davis and MKG that were considered that, but Drummond and Lillard stepped up. Kyrie was the only one in 2011.

2010 had 4, but ET and Favors have fallen out in favor of Paul George


For all we know, Nik Stauskas becomes Ray Allen, and becomes the face of the Hormets. I think there could be a ton of stars in any draft
Who considered MKG a franchise player? MKG was in that second tier and was considered to be a very good starter and potential All-Star.

You can say "I think there could be a ton of stars in any draft." That's fine, it's your opinion and while very unlikely it is somewhat possible. But you still have to form your own opinion, without falling somewhere in the middle. If you fall in the middle now you can point to either end of the argument and claim to be right. You have to commit.

My opinion is there will not be four franchise players in this draft. What's yours?
 

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If I was to tier up this draft, I'd rank it somewhere like this:

2 potential franchise players:
Andrew Wiggins
Joel Embiid
*Don't think either are a LeBron, Griffin, Davis, etc. More of a Paul George, Luol Deng, Joakim Noah, Al Horford

3 good starters:
Jabari Parker
Dante Exum
Noah Vonleh
*Guys that aren't necessarily franchise players, perennial All-Stars, etc. But are good starters that can hold down a spot over the entire length of a contract, if not more.
*Vonleh is tough to project because of how young he is, but if he can put it together he'll belong in this group.
*How far will Parker go considering his short comings defensively?

3 solid starters:
Marcus Smart
Dario Saric
Julius Randle
*Will probably never make an All-Star game, but will be players who hold down positions for years and allows teams to focus on other positions of need. A little more than role players.

Everyone else is just your average starter or less.
 

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