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You don't think they'd pass on Johhny for Clowney + a QB later that they like?

I don't want to do a full mock until after the combine, but I wanted to knock out a Top 10, so as of now this is how I see it going. Still need to familiarize myself with each teams personnel and systems some more, so this is kind of preliminary right now.  

Yeah of course it's most likely, but still, you do never know haha

I understand his flexibility, but I don't think he's suddenly going to use a vertical passing system or something completely different. I think the fundamentals will stay the same: play action, timing, and QB movement (rolls, boots etc). Unless the whole "wouldn't pick him at 4th" thing is a...

Interesting. Yeah I think if Shanny had his pick it'd be Teddy. But that's very interesting. Almost makes me think Aaron Murray, but that's just looking at fits for Shanny's offense. Not sure if Farmer is factoring that in, but you'd think he would have to.   EDIT Maybe Fales or Garoppolo? Boyd...

I'm thinking the Browns best bet, and they guy Shannahan want's is Teddy though.

Yup. 100% agreed about all of that.

Mariota would have been #1 by far, man. Sucks for the Texans.   Bridgewater can get a little more zip on short throws than Manziel, but as soon as you start getting down the field it floats on him, even when he doesn't put too much air under it. I think he'll be fine throwing down the field if...

In my opinion he won't fair too well if a team tries to push him into a vertical passing offense. He doesn't have the arm for it, his is arguably weaker than Manziel's, IMO. There's a lot of balls he has thrown to the outside that would have gotten picked in the NFL, and downfield he'll have...

Okay so I've been going wrong about trying to "rank" the QB's in this draft. Really, it should be based off what system you want to run. Most of these QB's can be very good in a certain system, but could really go bad if they are in the wrong one. None of these guys are very system versatile...

Well I'm finally going to actually analyze all of Bortles tape. So far he hasn't passed the eye test of a 1st round QB, but hopefully he can change my mind.

IMO Bortles is pretty much as raw as Logan Thomas, with less arm talent.

Say what you will about the top end talent of this class of QB's, but man, it's a deep class.

I will say this though, Bortles played great against Penn State. Some great throws.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000288009/article/aaron-murray-will-be-middletolateround-steal-for-nfl-team   Nice article on Murray actually by Brandt. I feel the same way.

Speaking of redshirt picks, look out in San Fran this year. Their getting Lattimore and Tank Carradine back. Scary shit.

Haha no no I just have serious concerns about some of these guys. Potential is a blinding attribute.   I just don't let the media affect my opinion. You never know what's a smoke screen or why they hype certain players.   I'm curious to see how you rank the QB's, Jake.   EDIT   Never really...

It's funny, I'm starting to feel like the second tier of QB's are going to be better than the first tier in this draft. I could easily see 3 out of the 4 top tier guys busting, and maybe 3 of the second tier guys becoming real good starters. My final QB list is going to be ludicrous, guys.  

I also feel like Aaron Murray is getting overlooked (like Mettenberger) due to his ACL. He's better than a lot of people realize.

My definition is: can he win me a Superbowl?   I know that depends on the rest of the team too, but the way I look at it, if I'm in the Superbowl, is he good enough to go and win it for me if the running game and defense aren't playing that great. If the game is on his shoulders, can he do it...