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See, Mett is 11/12, 169 yards and a TD.   Like Bortles, happy to see him doing very well. BUT it's just preseason.   Hypothetically though, in 5 years, could Luck, Bortles, Mettenberger make up the best QB trio in a division?

AGREED. When I was a little kid that's why I started to like them in the first place lol. That, and Eddie George.   Mettenberger to Hunter for a 64 yard TD! That's the future right there.   He fumbled again though :( He's gotta stop that.

I kind of feel bad for wanting Locker to fail.

I'm gonna have to wait until midnight to watch the replay on NFL Network :(   Sucks not having a team in the area! Bills, come to Toronto!!!

Ugh I hate when the Titans go light blue jerseys on the dark blue pants. Looks so much more modern with the light blue or white pants.

I hate PFF.

Just a heads up to everyone though, Blaine Gabbert went 13 for 16, 165 yards and a TD in preseason game 2 last year for the Jags.   What Bortles is doing should be taken with a grain of salt at this point.

Well it looks like that will be in Jacksonville, seems they like him a good deal.

I understand all that. Makes sense. I guess we'll just have to see how it all works out.   Also, Jake, did you like Allen Hurns when he was a Cane?

If they came out guns blazing saying "yes Manziel is tearing up practice, he's our QB1 no doubt" then yeah, expectations would be a lot higher.

That's what I was saying lol, smh.   They didn't want all this pressure on him. They didn't want to him to be anointed QB1 with the expectations of a Pro Bowl and a playoff run on his shoulders. They wanted to keep the pressure off of him for any number of situations; if he wasn't actually ready...

Seems like their trying not to put too much pressure on Manziel too early.

What has Manziel done though, OTHER than be a first round pick? That doesn't mean he's entitled to the job.   For the record, I'd start Manziel and try to trade Hoyer. They did take Manziel for a reason, but I also truly feel Hoyer hasn't gotten a fair shot either.

Or they're giving Hoyer a chance to prove he is a starting QB as well..

I'm sure the Bears will only keep one of Clausen/Palmer and keep Fales to develop. No sense in having two veteran backup QB's.

I'm not arguing he's going to be an all-star. I'm just saying give the guy a chance. When he's had opportunities to shine, he has.

Miller nails it again: https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/statuses/500101225870675968   That's exactly why I didn't rate him near the top of the class. Often times it can't be fixed, ala Jake Locker etc. But man has he ever fixed it. Hopefully cleaning up his feet will fix his deep ball too where...

Totally agree with Matt Miller on this one: https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/statuses/500093247612416000

Elcheato, how do you know Hoyer is average? Even he only has 4 career starts, and played damn well in them.   Like I said with Foles, even though he doesn't have the prototypical physical traits, who cares? He can still be good.

Bortles looks good again. I can't believe he didn't have a QB coach at UCF. No wonder he had/has issues with mechanics.