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Kitna is the best QB in the division...
 

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How the <Censored> do the packers get ranked higher then the vikings? They lost Brett Favre while the Vikings gained Jared Allen. Did I mention the Vikings have Adrian Peterson running the ball?
 

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Tatum Bell rushing for 1,000 yards is good and all, but running for 1,000 yards on the Broncos is like saying my Dolphins Punter punting it 60 yards should make him a Hall of Famer. I mean c'mon, me and my bad knee could probably run for 900 yards with the Broncos. Just look at Chris Henry, both Bell's, etc, it's the scheme.

And your O-Line is exactly the same except 1 year older and with a new scheme. Just because your are passing less doesn't mean they are going to block better. IMO, your O-Line is better at run blocking than pass blocking, and that's not saying a lot when they gave up a <Censored> load of sacks. That is going to hurt you guys.

I'll admit your WR's are great, but, Kitna is old and nothing spectacular, I'd rather have McGowan than him. When Kitna can throw it accurately, then we can talk about him.

Also, your secondary is still very weak. Booden is nothing but speed and got injured badly last season. Ernie Sims is nice, but he's the only name on your defense. The most I'd give you guys is 7-9 again and I see more of a 6-10 coming. Just not better than at least 6 of the other teams ranked in the 20's.
Not all running backs are "good" just because of the scheme. Travis(not Chris) Henry was a good back at Buffalo before coming to Denver. Clinton Portis left Denver and is still good, right?

Our O-Line isn't as weak as you guys think. We added Gosder Cherilus who is better then anyone we can at RT. How would do you know if our pass blocking is better then our run blocking when we ran the ball like 10 times a game. We had no running back that Mike Martz liked. We had a <Censored> ton of sacks, because of how many times we would throw the ball a game.

Kitna is a ton better then Josh McCown. McCown has never started a whole season in his pro career. Not with the Cards,Lions,Raiders,Dolphins. Kitna is pretty accurate when he doesn't have throw a thousand times a game.

Our secondary may lack the superstar names, but they fit the system perfectly. I don't care if Bodden is nothing but speed 6 INT's last season is still good. Ernie Sims is a god damn beast. Our secondary is improved. Our D-Line minus the injuries is still good enough to cause pressure on the QB.
 

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Right now yes, but once the season starts I'll definitely rank Rodgers ahead of him. Kitna is lucky that the division has horrible QB's.
Why is Kitna lucky that the division has horrible QB's? That has nothing to do with him. He still can put 4,000 yards and get 20 td's. The INT's and force balls is what kills him. Now that we won't be throwing the ball every damn play he shouldn't have to force as many balls.
 

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Right now yes, but once the season starts I'll definitely rank Rodgers ahead of him. Kitna is lucky that the division has horrible QB's.
Cause Rodgers is throwing to who?
While Kitna is throwing to Johnson, Williams, Furrey, McDonald, etc..
 

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Jags at #5....like that.
 

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Kitna actually plays with pride, he isn't afraid to get hit either, like most QB's.
 

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Cause Rodgers is throwing to who?
While Kitna is throwing to Johnson, Williams, Furrey, McDonald, etc..
You've guys have had multiple threats at WR for years, and nothing has come from it.

Kevin Smith and Bell are DECENT backs, niether will have an eye popping season. Your running game is average at best.

Your defense is also average at best. You guys did get better and you arent the 29th team in the league, but your not the 20th
 

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Right now yes, but once the season starts I'll definitely rank Rodgers ahead of him. Kitna is lucky that the division has horrible QB's.
I think Rodgers will be ahead of him to. That guy is good.
 

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Well I see it this way. We have a young team still, only way to go is up..
Calvin actually being thrown too will big a huge lift for the team..
 

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You've guys have had multiple threats at WR for years, and nothing has come from it.

Kevin Smith and Bell are DECENT backs, niether will have an eye popping season. Your running game is average at best.

Your defense is also average at best. You guys did get better and you arent the 29th team in the league, but your not the 20th
LOL, multiple threats for years? Mike Williams,Charles Rogers? 2 years in a row we've had good recievers. The first year we had Roy Williams and Mike Furrey, then we added Shaun McDonlad and Calvin Johnson. Calvin is going to breakout this season. He had a back injury in week 4 that was bothering him for the rest of the season. Roy Williams and Calvin Johnson could be just as good as T.J. and Chad Johnson was for Cincy a few years back.

Bell could get 1,000 yards this season, but I see Smith and Bell splitting carries this year, so about 600 yards a piece wouldn't surpise me.

The tough schedule is what is going to bring us down.
 

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LOL, multiple threats for years? Mike Williams,Charles Rogers? 2 years in a row we've had good recievers. The first year we had Roy Williams and Mike Furrey, then we added Shaun McDonlad and Calvin Johnson. Calvin is going to breakout this season. He had a back injury in week 4 that was bothering him for the rest of the season. Roy Williams and Calvin Johnson could be just as good as T.J. and Chad Johnson was for Cincy a few years back.

Bell could get 1,000 yards this season, but I see Smith and Bell splitting carries this year, so about 600 yards a piece wouldn't surpise me.

The tough schedule is what is going to bring us down.
2 years counts as multiple doesnt it?

Fact is you guys arent a playoff team, you lost how many games consecutively last season? Your o-line is horrible,and thats what makes or breaks your offense, and thats really all you have.
 

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Almost forgot we have Drew Stanton too.. If Kitna don't work out we will have Drew who will give us solid numbers..

Look at what Kitna did with Palmer in Cincy...Just saying..
 

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Not all running backs are "good" just because of the scheme. Travis(not Chris) Henry was a good back at Buffalo before coming to Denver. Clinton Portis left Denver and is still good, right?

Our O-Line isn't as weak as you guys think. We added Gosder Cherilus who is better then anyone we can at RT. How would do you know if our pass blocking is better then our run blocking when we ran the ball like 10 times a game. We had no running back that Mike Martz liked. We had a <Censored> ton of sacks, because of how many times we would throw the ball a game.

Kitna is a ton better then Josh McCown. McCown has never started a whole season in his pro career. Not with the Cards,Lions,Raiders,Dolphins. Kitna is pretty accurate when he doesn't have throw a thousand times a game.

Our secondary may lack the superstar names, but they fit the system perfectly. I don't care if Bodden is nothing but speed 6 INT's last season is still good. Ernie Sims is a god damn beast. Our secondary is improved. Our D-Line minus the injuries is still good enough to cause pressure on the QB.
Um Henry was an alright back everywhere and he was not even all that great last year. Portis was good yes, but how about the other dozen RB's that have been in Denver and have been <Censored>ty after?

Well your pass blocking is horrible so I'm at least trying to give something constructive about them by saying their run blocking is better. Either way the O-Line is not good and one rookie who will probably be a backup his first year will not change that. Especially when he doesn't have that great talents.

McGowan just signed with the Dolphins so he hasn't started a game for them yet. And Kitna has had a 10+ year career. Also, accuracy is measured by percentage, so the more you pass shouldn't matter, you should still be accurate with your throws and get completions, especially with the receivers you guys have.

INT's are an overrated rating. Many CB's have great hands and ball-hawking skills but suck at coverage, that's what Booden is. And of course Sims is a beast, that's what I said lol. Your secondary is improved, but is par at best. Your D-Line and O-Line are the things holding you guys back right now, and like the old saying, Football Games are won in the trenches.
 

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Cause Rodgers is throwing to who?
While Kitna is throwing to Johnson, Williams, Furrey, McDonald, etc..
Last time I checked Driver was a Pro-Bowl receiver and Jennings had an amazing season last year. I wouldn't take them over the Lions receivers, but pretty damn good targets, better than half the teams.
 

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Ok, you guys (Lions fans) are getting bent out of shape about nothing here. Who cares what people say...they're Pre-Season rankings for a reason. Wait till the season starts.
 

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2 years counts as multiple doesnt it?

Fact is you guys arent a playoff team, you lost how many games consecutively last season? Your o-line is horrible,and thats what makes or breaks your offense, and thats really all you have.
I really wouldn't even count the first season you are counting. Mike Furrey is decent, just had Roy Williams getting double teams so he caught the other balls. Now that we have Johnson and McDonald he didn't recieve as much attention.

I'll agree I don't think we are a playoff team, yet. If we can start out hot again then maybe. We lost a lot of games in a row, because Martz went away from the running game and fat ass Shaun Rogers stop showing up, now we don't even have to worry about running our defense with/around Rogers. Our O-Line won't be as bad as last season.
 
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