Trouble in Cleveland

[RipCity32]

In Chard Ford's ESPN chat:
 

 
 
Tim (Los Angeles)
 
How hot are the collective seats of Chris Grant and Mike Brown? And who do you think the Cavs are most likely to target at the deadline?

Chad Ford
  (1:05 PM)
 
Virtually every GM in the league believes that Grant will be gone this summer if things don't get turned around this season. He doesn't have much time. The thinking is that there's no way Dan Gilbert is going to let him make another lottery pick if that's the direction the Cavs end up heading. Grant's goal (via his owner) is to get this team competitive and into the playoffs. The Deng move was supposed to help. But so far ... nothing. Chemistry is a major issue there and some of that is on Mike Brown. But more of it is on the collection of players in Cleveland at the moment. Something has to happen quick. Kyrie Irving has been telling people privately he wants out. Cleveland can't afford to lose him and LeBron. They know the urgency. I expect them to be major players at the deadline.
 
 

 

[Pugz]

:lebron:

 

[Teagz]

"Cleveland isn't aloud to have nice things" - God

 

[elcheato]

Chad Ford is just trying to stir the pot. If it had any backing he would have written an article about it, not made some stupid small blur in his chat.
 
He said this after:
 

Yeah, I see Twitter is blowing up about what I wrote about Kyrie. Thought that was fairly common knowledge that he's been unhappy there. Maybe not ... Don't overreact. Much, much harder for players in their rookie contracts to leave. They have to take a much riskier path and essential sign a qualifying offer as a restricted free agent. Very few do it. And the Cavs are working to try to create a winning situation and culture to make him happy. Didn't report it to say he's gone. Just trying to show why the Cavs are trying hard to right the ship right now.
 

We call that back-peddling.

 

[Pugz]

you can't sit back and deny that kyrie isnt upset.

we dont need to hear it from anyone, we can just imagine he is.

he's a star, why wouldn't he be upset his team isnt winning? anyone in his situation would be upset.

 

[RipCity32]

Not really back-peddling. The fact remains that he is unhappy there.

 

[elcheato]

Who said he wasn't upset?
 
I'm dismissing Ford's claim that hes telling people he wants out, and he back peddled off that by just going out and saying its common knowledge he's unhappy. He's on a losing team, of course he's unhappy. Ford tried to throw two and two together with no backing.

 

[RipCity32]

Well he said he's telling people that. Then the guy said Twitter is blowing up. He then said he thought it was common knowledge that Kyrie is unhappy.
 
Doesn't dismiss that Kyrie might be saying that.

 

[elcheato]

And everything after that statement with how it's hard for guys on rookie contracts to leave was him saving his own ass when Kyrie extends. He threw shit at the wall in hopes that it sticks.
 
ESPN would like nothing more than to see a star with Kyrie's kind of marketability leave for a bigger market. The guy is on one of the worst teams in the league and got more votes for the all-star game than Chris Paul.
 
There is nothing supporting what he said other than a talented player being unhappy that his team currently sucks. He stirred the pot, blew up social media and probably got more chat viewers because of it. Mission accomplished.
 
He's unhappy, Chad Ford knows it, he tried to throw something else on it. Journalism.

 

[Hurricane Season]

Man, Kyrie told that little kid that he would never leave.  That would be worse than Lebron.

 

[Mexi]

Cause you know where he would go too

 

[Pugz]

Cause you know where he would go too

miami.

 

[elcheato]

Do you really expect a guy with his injury history to take a QO instead of the max? And if he does take the QO, he'd get traded

This is really a dumb discussion, he's gonna be on the cavs for at least the next 5-6 years, barring a trade

 

[Mexi]

Stars rarely leave early
Even upset ones stay

Even extremely upset ones like love stay 7 years

 

[The Young One]

Chris Grant sucks at his job.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

I talked about Cleveland a good bit the other night, but I guess it bears repeating. That's a team with a lot of skilled players, but they lack real good basketball players. They have a lot of guys who don't really want to play together, they all want the ball and they all will take the shot because they don't know when the next time they'll touch the ball is. I guess you can put that on Grant.

 

[elcheato]

That doesn't have nearly as much to do with it as you think. They have no leader, they don't run offensive sets (you can try to spin that as having "individual players", but this is a common occurrence with Mike Brown teams, it's not the first time we've seen it here), the rotations are awful, and Mike Brown doesn't hold Kyrie accountable for his defensive problems.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Lets not act like there weren't issues before Mike Brown though, this schemes may have changed with Brown but they're still the same type of selfish team.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

lmao

 

[elcheato]

Lets not act like there weren't issues before Mike Brown though, this schemes may have changed with Brown but they're still the same type of selfish team.

And let's not act like Byron Scott was running sets and had control of his team. He literally threw away his offense and ran nothing, then lost his team at the end of the year. He said as much in interviews