Steph Curry named MVP

[Paulius]

Throwing around the word "great" defender like we got gary payton and john stockton out here smh. Jesus

 

[CameronCrazy06]

He's the best player in the league. Saying he's a great defender is a stretch though. They have the luxury of being able to hide him and putting Klay on the best guards they face. He's much improved, I just wouldn't say he's great.

He moves the needle on a team more than anybody in the league though, no question

 

[Paulius]

He's the best player in the league. Saying he's a great defender is a stretch though. They have the luxury of being able to hide him and putting Klay on the best guards they face. He's much improved, I just wouldn't say he's great.

He moves the needle on a team more than anybody in the league though, no question

Exactly. Hes much improved, bc recent years he was pretty bad...but no way is he "great" . Come on, you cant put him along gary payton, cp3, isiah thomas etc

 

[jonathanlambert33]

If any of you don't think he's a great defender I would suggest googling as many articles, watching as many videos, and even going back and watching as many games you can be, then come back and say he's not great. A simple google search of "Steph Curry defense" brings up enough articles that will convince you if you go in open minded.

 

[Paulius]

If any of you don't think he's a great defender I would suggest googling as many articles, watching as many videos, and even going back and watching as many games you can be, then come back and say he's not great. A simple google search of "Steph Curry defense" brings up enough articles that will convince you if you go in open minded.

Stop dodging my questions. Give me a list of your top 5 pg defenders now. And top 5 pg all time. Without googling lmaooo show some knowledge son

 

[Paulius]

He has improved. But no way in the world is he "great". Youre misusing the word great so badly right now

 

[jonathanlambert33]

He's the best player in the league. Saying he's a great defender is a stretch though. They have the luxury of being able to hide him and putting Klay on the best guards they face. He's much improved, I just wouldn't say he's great.

He moves the needle on a team more than anybody in the league though, no question

They don't hide him, Steph is matched up against the leagues best PG's ala CP3, Westbrook, etc.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Stop dodging my questions. Give me a list of your top 5 pg defenders now. And top 5 pg all time. Without googling lmaooo show some knowledge son

Do you really think I have a top 5 list sitting in my back pocket? Anybody who does I can guarantee its not accurate and based off of perception, which isn't reality.

 

[Paulius]

Do you really think I have a top 5 list sitting in my back pocket?

Are you serious? Lol. You cant name me five point guards who are top defenders?? Ok. So this is where we end all of our arguements, because one, you have no knowledge, and two youre just wasting my time bc youre barking up bullshit. You dont even know top 5 pg defenders and you out here calling curry a GREAT defender? Damn youve just exposed yourself hard

 

[Paulius]

They don't hide him, Steph is matched up against the leagues best PG's ala CP3, Westbrook, etc.

Lmaoo you just keep proving that you dont watch any games. Curry rarely ever guards the best perimeter players on the other team. Its klay who has been guarding them. Hes also been guarding lillard all series but for some reason you think curry held him to 36% shooting just bc they play the same position lol. Get the fuck outta here

 

[elcheato]

LeBron, the player I'm assuming you think is better than Curry, rarely guards the opposing teams top threat. 

 

[Paulius]

LeBron, the player I'm assuming you think is better than Curry, rarely guards the opposing teams top threat. 

Leonard does son. And thats who you can call a GREAT defender

 

[Paulius]

Wheres mah man @stray32 and @cavsfan817

 

[cavsfan817]

Curry never guards the top threats either... Klay takes the best backcourt player.

 

[elcheato]

Curry never guards the top threats either... Klay takes the best backcourt player.

That was my point. If someone is going to hold that against Curry, then it needs to be held against LeBron, who much prefers to play free safety then attempt to lockdown a top scoring threat, unless it's late in the 4th quarter. 

 

[cavsfan817]

He's the best player in the league. Saying he's a great defender is a stretch though. They have the luxury of being able to hide him and putting Klay on the best guards they face. He's much improved, I just wouldn't say he's great.

He moves the needle on a team more than anybody in the league though, no question

 
Great point, in that he came into game 4 and completely dominated after the team was coming off a loss, however I don't really fully agree with it. The Cavs with LeBron vs the Cavs without LeBron are like a team that is arguably one of the most deadly in the entire league to a team that looks like they lost their puppy on the playground.

 

[Paulius]

Curry never guards the top threats either... Klay takes the best backcourt player.

Exactly. But in nolafans head curry the one who has kept lillard at 36% all series bc they both play PG position lol

 

[cavsfan817]

That was my point. If someone is going to hold that against Curry, then it needs to be held against LeBron, who much prefers to play free safety then attempt to lockdown a top scoring threat, unless it's late in the 4th quarter. 

 
I think we're mixing two conversations together here. LeBron does play free safety and the only time that he really "locks down" on a guy is when the game is tight down the stretch. I still believe that LeBron is the best all around player in the league in terms of total game and total impact with what he brings. Curry was on the best team, with the best record ever, and put up great numbers (improved from his MVP performance last season, even). It's clear that he should have won MVP. I don't believe he's the best player in the world though, currently.

 

[Paulius]

Exactly. Lebrons impact is so much bigger. Without curry, the warriors are still a contender. And its actually funny that when curry was out, the warriors defense was trenendous. But thats for another day. Anyway, without lebron, the cavs are finished. Theyre like 1-7 without him this year

 

[elcheato]

 
Great point, in that he came into game 4 and completely dominated after the team was coming off a loss, however I don't really fully agree with it. The Cavs with LeBron vs the Cavs without LeBron are like a team that is arguably one of the most deadly in the entire league to a team that looks like they lost their puppy on the playground.

I think that says a lot about the Cavs coaching staff, maybe more than it does about LeBron. Can't blame Curry for having a staff that has put together an actual offensive system that can function operationally without him in the lineup.