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nolafan33 said:Here's one. Would you take Bledsoe and/or Lowry over Kyrie?
TYO said:Cleveland really doesn't have a choice but to give it to him.
BwareDWare94 said:
I think that's bullshit. I wouldn't be scared to make the fans mad on this one. Signing Kyrie to max money is dumb unless he proves he'll be a 2 way player.
bosoxlover12 said:I didn't misinterpret anything; I offered another choice.
Bledsoe < Kyrie
Lowry < Kyrie
Lowry+Bledsoe > Kyrie
nolafan33 said:Someone stop me when you disagree:
Puts the ball through the net with regularity
Average to slightly above average efficiency
Low efficiency isolation player
Below average spot up shooter
Poor running off screens
Excellent PnR ball handler
Average ball distributor
Low turnover rate
Poor rebounder
Poor defensive player
Poor off ball defender
But a better on ball defender
Above average PnR defender
Poor isolation defender
Poor team defender
Poor rotational defender
Doesn't turn the opponent over at a high rate
I mean I'm really not trying to shit on the player, and I'm sure I just sparked activity by like 100% with this post, but people see that he averages 20+ points per game, they see his street ball esque style, and as a result people think he's this great player. Which just isn't true. The things he does well, he does REALLY well. But the things he does poorly, he does REALLY poorly. And I would say he does more poorly than he does well.
You're wrong in assuming I rely so heavily on stats to come to my conclusion. Eye test is always on top for me, stats are just a way to confirm or refute what my eyes are telling me. Stats are just the easiest way to relay information, but people like to throw those away when they don't back up their beliefs. That's why I've been using images in my posts as of late.CameronCrazy06 said:The problem is you're just looking at a list of stats and forming your opinion when you've probably only seen him play like 4 times max. He's not in a situation where he can succeed. Cleveland's team is garbage and the only player on the team who has redeeming offensive qualities can only score with the ball in his hands which doesn't help complement Kyrie. Not to mention he had an inept coach this year. If you put Kyrie in a different spot you'd look at him differently.
He's going to make max money regardless. He's a star who people go out to see. There's definitely room for improvement in various areas of via game but he's in his early 20s.BwareDWare94 said:I think that's bullshit. I wouldn't be scared to make the fans mad on this one. Signing Kyrie to max money is dumb unless he proves he'll be a 2 way player.