Pete Rose and the HOF

[BrewCrewFan]

Should Pete Rose be allowed into the HOF?

Why or why not?

 

[Big Papi]

Yes. He has the most hits of all time, did his dirty deed as a manager. Let him in the Hall as a player, not a coach. I have done way too many speeches on this in my time.

 

[catman]

Absolutely he belongs in the hall. His accomplishments as a player make him essential to be a member. Let his plaque indicate his banishment and the reason for doing so, but he deserves to be in Cooperstown.

 

[A.E]

Plenty of guys who broke rules already in the Hall. At this point its the egos of Fay Vincent's disciples that are keeping him from getting in. I realize MLB doesn't actually put players into the HOF but you can't tell me the league doesn't have a huge influence on ballots. I consider the HOF a shrine of the game of baseball. Good, bad, or indifferent, Pete Rose's entire story is a huge chapter that deserves to be told to the many generations ahead of us. Put the guy in and put his entire situation in bronze.

 

[brett05]

No. He broke THE rule. He singlehandedly could have destroyed the game. MLB brought to you by Vince McMahon.

 

[A.E]

No. He broke THE rule. He singlehandedly could have destroyed the game. MLB brought to you by Vince McMahon.

A lot of guys already in the Hall that broke rules. Guys that used to scuff up the ball, guys that used speed, 'greenies', and pitched games high on LSD. Hell, there's guys in the HOF who ran baseball during the segregationist era. Tris Speaker was once implicated in game-fixing. Like I said, there's plenty of room in the HOF for infamy but when it comes to Rose, Bonds, and now Clemens, it's a personal issue MLB has with each player.

I honestly believe Pete would've been in by now if he didn't lie about it for as long.

 

[brett05]

A lot of guys already in the Hall that broke rules. Guys that used to scuff up the ball, guys that used speed, 'greenies', and pitched games high on LSD. Hell, there's guys in the HOF who ran baseball during the segregationist era. Tris Speaker was once implicated in game-fixing. Like I said, there's plenty of room in the HOF for infamy but when it comes to Rose, Bonds, and now Clemens, it's a personal issue MLB has with each player.

I honestly believe Pete would've been in by now if he didn't lie about it for as long.

Let's bring this in back to Rose.

Rose broke THE rule in baseball. This rule is far and away #1. He bet on games and jeopardized the legitimacy of the sport and success of his team(s). His bad is for a lifetime. Shoeless Joe goes in way, way before Rose because he served his lifetime ban.

On top of that Rose continually lies and continually gambles on the game. There is no case to be made for him to go in while alive.

 

[A.E]

Let's bring this in back to Rose.

Rose broke THE rule in baseball. This rule is far and away #1. He bet on games and jeopardized the legitimacy of the sport and success of his team(s). His bad is for a lifetime. Shoeless Joe goes in way, way before Rose because he served his lifetime ban.

On top of that Rose continually lies and continually gambles on the game. There is no case to be made for him to go in while alive.

Being banned from baseball has nothing to do with the Hall. I've mentioned how one affects the other but just b/c Pete and Joe were banned from baseball doesn't mean they can't be put into the HOF.

 

[brett05]

Being banned from baseball has nothing to do with the Hall. I've mentioned how one affects the other but just b/c Pete and Joe were banned from baseball doesn't mean they can't be put into the HOF.

I know, but the HOF has deemed it so.

 

[A.E]

I know, but the HOF has deemed it so.

Bunch of socialists

 

[brett05]

Bunch of socialists

Honestly I think Pete should be out of the Hall for his gambling. Gambling is the one thing that could destroy the game. Forget what MLB has done, what Pete has done and then lied about continually is forgivable but is not to be rewarded.

 

[A.E]

Honestly I think Pete should be out of the Hall for his gambling. Gambling is the one thing that could destroy the game. Forget what MLB has done, what Pete has done and then lied about continually is forgivable but is not to be rewarded.

I look at the Hall as a museum of the game. The most significant players and events are rightfully enshrined. You cannot tell me thr story of Pete Rose shouldnt be preserved in there. His gambling had nothing to do with the amazing numbers he put up as a.player. Put a giant asterisk over his head if you wish but put him in.

 

[brett05]

I look at the Hall as a museum of the game. The most significant players and events are rightfully enshrined. You cannot tell me thr story of Pete Rose shouldnt be preserved in there. His gambling had nothing to do with the amazing numbers he put up as a.player. Put a giant asterisk over his head if you wish but put him in.

If you see it as a museum than you should be good with him not getting a bust. Plenty of Rose stuff there already to tell the story.

 

[RickD]

Pete Rose is the Donald Trump of MLB! He is obnoxious, annoying, conceited, arragont and an all around jerk. He gambled on the game. He lied.

He also deserves the Hall!

Pete Rose is the all time hit king. He deserves to go into the Hall as a player. Gambling did not impact his hit record! HE SHOULD NEVER MANAGE A GAME AGAIN. He should never be allowed to work in any capacity for a MLB team.

As a player, put him in the Hall. As a person, keep him away from the game!

 

[Hopesfail]

His gambling hasn't nothing to do with what he did on the field. The Hall Of Fame is not run by MLB, so it should be based on his accolades on the field. Oh you gambled on games but you have the most hits in league history? PED use is one thing, but gambling on baseball while putting up the numbers he did is another. Leave him banned from MLB, put him in the hall. If he wasn't as stubborn as he is about the whole thing and just came clean from the get go and was apologetic, we might not be having this conversation.

 

[brett05]

Pete Rose is the Donald Trump of MLB! He is obnoxious, annoying, conceited, arragont and an all around jerk. He gambled on the game. He lied.

He also deserves the Hall!

Pete Rose is the all time hit king. He deserves to go into the Hall as a player. Gambling did not impact his hit record! HE SHOULD NEVER MANAGE A GAME AGAIN. He should never be allowed to work in any capacity for a MLB team.

As a player, put him in the Hall. As a person, keep him away from the game!

What if he gambled as a player as it appears there is evidence for?

 

[semperty]

He willingly accepted a lifetime ban. There's no justification for him getting in during his lifetime.

 

[A.E]

He willingly accepted a lifetime ban. There's no justification for him getting in during his lifetime.

An MLB ban, yes. What does that have to do with the HOF?

 

[semperty]

An MLB ban, yes. What does that have to do with the HOF?

Well the Hall of Fame pretty well represents MLB's post-career tribute. It doesn't very well make sense that the Hall of Fame would go against baseball on this one.

 

[A.E]

Well the Hall of Fame pretty well represents MLB's post-career tribute. It doesn't very well make sense that the Hall of Fame would go against baseball on this one.

Because the HOF doesn't need MLB's permission to do shit. The HOF committee is in charge of balloting and its writers who cast votes.