MLB Player Rankings 2016: #3 Second Baseman

[Phil The Thrill]

2016 Rankings:
 
Starting Pitcher
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Closer
1. Aroldis Chapman, NYY
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Catcher
1. Buster Posey
2. Salvador Perez
3. Yadier Molina
4. Jonathan Lucroy
5. Brian McCann
 
First Base
1. Paul Goldschmidt
2. Anthony Rizzo
3. Miguel Cabrera
4. Eric Hosmer
5. Joey Votto
 
Second Base
1. Jose Altuve
2. Robinson Cano
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Third Base
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Shortstop
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Left Field
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Centre Field
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Right Field
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[Phil The Thrill]

I got Kipnis here

 

[CoachAF]

Is this based on just this year's stats/performance, or just an overall sense (track record included)???

 

[Phil The Thrill]

I would say as of right now. 

 

[CoachAF]

I would say as of right now. 

 
Ohhhhhhh, dangit. I should have changed my #2 vote then. Has to be Daniel Murphy. Kid has been tearing the cover off the ball. 4.2 WAR is second highest among 2nd baseman. I like the Kipnis vote, he will be my #4

 

[Stray32]

Kinsler for sure
 
 

 
Ohhhhhhh, dangit. I should have changed my #2 vote then. Has to be Daniel Murphy. Kid has been tearing the cover off the ball. 4.2 WAR is second highest among 2nd baseman. I like the Kipnis vote, he will be my #4

Kinsler and Murphy aren't even in the same universe defensively

 

[Phil The Thrill]

Let's get a few more votes.

 

[CoachAF]

Kinsler for sure
 
 
Kinsler and Murphy aren't even in the same universe defensively

 
 
Ok, but Kinsler isnt really close offensively to Murphy this season either. Ask teams which season they'd want and I think Murphy's offense would trump Kinsler's defense. If this were SS, C, or CF then I could see the defensive aspect holding a lot more weight. This is 2B though, and defense isn't as much a priority there as it is at other positions. 

 

[Stray32]

 
 
Ok, but Kinsler isnt really close offensively to Murphy this season either. Ask teams which season they'd want and I think Murphy's offense would trump Kinsler's defense. If this were SS, C, or CF then I could see the defensive aspect holding a lot more weight. This is 2B though, and defense isn't as much a priority there as it is at other positions. 

Kinsler is hitting close to .300, OBP is .349 compared to .392, 10 steals to 3 CS compared to 3-3 for Murphy, Murphy has 19 HRs Kinsler has 20. So Kinsler is still a really good player offensively and elite defensively vs elite offensively (and I'd put money on him not staying over .350 average (especially with a .354 BABIP at the moment) and poor defensively.
 
I'd like to see reasoning from people voting other guys as well, he's explained his Murphy pick and I explained my Kinsler pick but idk how a couple of these guys are getting votes this early (like Swish with the super-homer Panik vote)

 

[Phil The Thrill]

Honestly, Kinsler's defence hadn't been anything special this season either.

 

[CoachAF]

Kinsler is hitting close to .300, OBP is .349 compared to .392, 10 steals to 3 CS compared to 3-3 for Murphy, Murphy has 19 HRs Kinsler has 20. So Kinsler is still a really good player offensively and elite defensively vs elite offensively (and I'd put money on him not staying over .350 average (especially with a .354 BABIP at the moment) and poor defensively.
 
I'd like to see reasoning from people voting other guys as well, he's explained his Murphy pick and I explained my Kinsler pick but idk how a couple of these guys are getting votes this early (like Swish with the super-homer Panik vote)

 
I am always up for discussion, which is why i love these lists. We all have our own thoughts and opinions, thanks for sharing yours. One thing I found in researching is that Murphy has a .620 SLG%....That's insane for a guy with a career .443 SLG%. He has really elevated his game this year. Thus, I feel like he deserves to be further up the list. I would have voted him #2 if I had realized earlier that this poll was a 2016 ranking and not a track-record deal. 

 

[CoachAF]

Whoever keeps voting Pedroia needs to either stop, or justify their vote. There's at least 6 guys I'd take ahead of Pedroia. 

 

[Stray32]

 
I am always up for discussion, which is why i love these lists. We all have our own thoughts and opinions, thanks for sharing yours. One thing I found in researching is that Murphy has a .620 SLG%....That's insane for a guy with a career .443 SLG%. He has really elevated his game this year. Thus, I feel like he deserves to be further up the list. I would have voted him #2 if I had realized earlier that this poll was a 2016 ranking and not a track-record deal. 

It's a "who would you pick if you were building a team for one game/one season starting right now" but yeah he's having a great season I just don't think he'll keep it up. Right now he's hitting more flyballs and less groundballs than he has before, and his hard hit % is way higher at 38.9%, I just don't think he'll keep it up

 

[Phil The Thrill]

Whoever keeps voting Pedroia needs to either stop, or justify their vote. There's at least 6 guys I'd take ahead of Pedroia. 

 
Pedroia has a had a terrific season. Best defensive 2nd baseman and is providing offence. 
 
Him being in the top 5 is easily justifiable.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

I'll start getting in on these (Schoop should be in the discussion based on this season alone)
 
Voted for Carpenter even though I'm not sure if he's even  a 2B (doesn't he play third too?)

 

[Phil The Thrill]

I'll start getting in on these (Schoop should be in the discussion based on this season alone)
 
Voted for Carpenter even though I'm not sure if he's even  a 2B (doesn't he play third too?)

Fangraphs has him listed at 2nd.

And ill add schoop next round

 

[Phil The Thrill]

Bump, we got a tie between Kinsler and Pedroia.

 

[Senators26]

Pedroia 

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Dustin Pedroia in contention at #3 is absurd

 

[Phil The Thrill]

Best defensive 2nd baseman in the league and still provides a lot of value at the plate.