Doctor Believes RGIII May Be Done For Season

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Okay I went back to check, and he never clearly stated it, but he heavily implied it.
 
"Luck was not a special passer based on film study."
 
"Overall, Luck was not asked to make many tough throws at the intermediate and deeper levels. I did not see those. I will not say he can’t make them, but based on the 5 games I evaluated it’s a projection. In addition, Luck had a tendency to lift his back foot off the ground before releasing the ball. That prevented him from driving through his throws and at times negatively impacted his velocity and accuracy. He would lean over his front foot and push the ball. That can be corrected with coaching and repetition, but it’s a concern that must be addressed."
 
"A complete breakdown of both Griffin’s and Luck’s play would demand more space than allowable, but here are some final thoughts based solely on film study. Luck, despite his freedom at the line of scrimmage, was managed and manipulated by his offense more than Griffin was in his spread scheme. Griffin threw an excellent deep ball, with trajectory, touch and accuracy. Luck played with an efficiency and continuity that was evident snap after snap. Griffin, despite taking a high percentage of snaps from the shotgun, showed the ability to execute the play action pass game from under center. Luck was very efficient in the play action and boot action pass game. I would describe Luck as a short to intermediate touch and timing passer off straight drop backs, and a deep ball thrower off play action.
The bottom line in my 5 game film evaluation: Griffin is a superior arm talent and natural passer than Luck. Will he be a better NFL quarterback? We’ll find out soon enough."
 

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Off topic, but why the fuck would they make RGIII wear this shirt inside out?
 

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TiTAN said:
Okay I went back to check, and he never clearly stated it, but he heavily implied it.
 
"Luck was not a special passer based on film study."
 
"Overall, Luck was not asked to make many tough throws at the intermediate and deeper levels. I did not see those. I will not say he can’t make them, but based on the 5 games I evaluated it’s a projection. In addition, Luck had a tendency to lift his back foot off the ground before releasing the ball. That prevented him from driving through his throws and at times negatively impacted his velocity and accuracy. He would lean over his front foot and push the ball. That can be corrected with coaching and repetition, but it’s a concern that must be addressed."
 
"A complete breakdown of both Griffin’s and Luck’s play would demand more space than allowable, but here are some final thoughts based solely on film study. Luck, despite his freedom at the line of scrimmage, was managed and manipulated by his offense more than Griffin was in his spread scheme. Griffin threw an excellent deep ball, with trajectory, touch and accuracy. Luck played with an efficiency and continuity that was evident snap after snap. Griffin, despite taking a high percentage of snaps from the shotgun, showed the ability to execute the play action pass game from under center. Luck was very efficient in the play action and boot action pass game. I would describe Luck as a short to intermediate touch and timing passer off straight drop backs, and a deep ball thrower off play action.
The bottom line in my 5 game film evaluation: Griffin is a superior arm talent and natural passer than Luck. Will he be a better NFL quarterback? We’ll find out soon enough."
 
If I remember correctly, you also said Luck was extremely overrated heading into the 2012 draft.
 

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RipCity32 said:
Off topic, but why the fuck would they make RGIII wear this shirt inside out?
 
Because of their Nike contract.  IDK if that shirt is adidas, but the league has forced him to put tape over the adidas logo many times.
 

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Pepe Silvia said:
 
Okay?  That's kind of my point.  He made that prediction, then RG3 went out and tore up the league.  That prediction didn't look too crazy, then RG3 got hurt.
 
If Griffin's career turns out to be a flop, it won't be due to a lack of talent, it'll  be because of his confidence being shot to hell after that knee injury.  
He tore up the league in a gimmick offense. It was never sustainable.
 
If his career is a flop, it's because he doesn't have the mental ability to be an NFL QB. QB's don't need to be athletic like he is. Take away his athleticism and he still has a cannon of an arm. He should be able to succeed as a pocket passer if he could grasp the game mentally. But he hasn't shown that he can.
 

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And because Jesus is a pussy
 

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Oh, I figured cause it said Jesus. 
 

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Pepe Silvia said:
 
If I remember correctly, you also said Luck was extremely overrated heading into the 2012 draft.
I did. And he still is overrated.
 
Is Griffin close to him? No.
 

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TiTAN said:
He tore up the league in a gimmick offense. It was never sustainable.
 
If his career is a flop, it's because he doesn't have the mental ability to be an NFL QB. QB's don't need to be athletic like he is. Take away his athleticism and he still has a cannon of an arm. He should be able to succeed as a pocket passer if he could grasp the game mentally. But he hasn't shown that he can.
 
He hasn't shown it because he hasn't had the opportunity.  He came in last year with zero offseason work.  He shouldn't have played last year.
 

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I disagree. He can be elite, but isn't close to it yet. In his last 3 games he has 8 TDs to 9 INTs. That kind of play over a stretch of 3 games displays he doesn't have the consistency yet. You can't average 3 INTs a game for almost a month straight of games and be anything close to elite.
 

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TiTAN said:
I disagree. He can be elite, but isn't close to it yet. In his last 3 games he has 8 TDs to 9 INTs. That kind of play over a stretch of 3 games displays he doesn't have the consistency yet. You can't average 3 INTs a game for almost a month straight of games and be anything close to elite.
That is just ridiculous because you can't spell ELIte without Eli.
 

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And because Jesus is a pussy
oh lawd.

this legit made me look like a weirdo next to my gf. not like that's not normal.
 

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Pepe Silvia said:
 
Okay?  That's kind of my point.  He made that prediction, then RG3 went out and tore up the league.  That prediction didn't look too crazy, then RG3 got hurt.
 
If Griffin's career turns out to be a flop, it won't be due to a lack of talent, it'll  be because of his confidence being shot to hell after that knee injury.  
 
Well the intangibles need to be kept in mind, like this is exactly why NFL teams prefer pocket passers.  Or the fact that Luck's progression has been steady and the ceiling looks sky high, and it's unfair to say Griffin would be duplicating if he didn't get hurt.
 

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Wow according to an ESPN poll, 72% of the people who voted think when both are healthy, Kirk should start over Griffin.
 

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I've been calling Eli El-INT for for quite awhile, now...
 

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Wow according to an ESPN poll, 72% of the people who voted think when both are healthy, Kirk should start over Griffin.
Prisoners of the moment.
 

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Pepe Silvia said:
 
Because of their Nike contract.  IDK if that shirt is adidas, but the league has forced him to put tape over the adidas logo many times.
Nike uses that typeface on their designs a lot though.
 

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Can you guys imagine that shitstorm that's coming if Cousins has a good game against Philly, next week?
 

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