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buzzy said:
 
By saying this you deny somebody their rights to express an opinion. Just because the subject is so clear to you that you think it has to be a fact doesn't mean it actually is. 
Marriage is a thing made up by humans and those humans are entitled to their opinions as to who can participate. 
 
Even if an opinion is so ridiculous and so shitty that it violates human rights and ethical codes and whatever, it can't be wrong in a factual sense. Opinions are right or wrong based on how a person conceives them.
 
And regardless, it would be hard to draw a line as to which opinions are actual facts and which aren't.
 
My points exactly.
 

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I don't care about being right or wrong. It's still offensive.
 

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The generation after us is going to be ashamed to realize that we wouldn't grant equality to human beings because of their sexuality.

And to think its not fully legal yet for gays to get married all because of core Christian beliefs, even though there is a supposed wall of separation between church and state.
 

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I agree
 
 
Think of how dumb they looked back in the 60s by not giving blacks equal rights. Whole Jackie Robinson story (along with others of course) and it makes you think "wow, why were they given no rights at all?"
 
thats what we will think of in like 40 years. its a homosexual, not a terrorist
 

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No stop guys. These highly religious people will sentence you to hell if you agree with homosexuality. 
 

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Imagine living in a world where heterosexuality was condemned a "sin" and you cannot marry. 
 
Wonder how people would react then.
 

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I think marriage is fuckin' stupid anyways. Just complicates shit, imo.
 

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buzzy said:
 
By saying this you deny somebody their rights to express an opinion. Just because the subject is so clear to you that you think it has to be a fact doesn't mean it actually is. 
Marriage is a thing made up by humans and those humans are entitled to their opinions as to who can participate. 
 
Even if an opinion is so ridiculous and so shitty that it violates human rights and ethical codes and whatever, it can't be wrong in a factual sense. Opinions are right or wrong based on how a person conceives them.
 
And regardless, it would be hard to draw a line as to which opinions are actual facts and which aren't.
 
No. The fact is that gays will not get the same rights allowed to married couples if they're not allowed to marry, and therefore it is wrong--it's prejudiced toward a significant group.
 
These are facts, and that's why it's a fact opposing gays' right to marry is wrong.
 
I'm not offering an opinion in this thread. I'm presenting the facts. Stop trying to deconstruct what you can't deconstruct.
 

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elcheato said:
The bible says that Jesus condones sacrificing children but we don't preach that.
this.
 
the Bible says a lot of shit that christians don't follow anymore. they overlook it. 
 
I personally am fine with what AP said. I support gay marriage but I'm okay if others don't support it -- what I hate is when people use the bible to say that they will burn for eternity or that allowing gay marriage will lead to allowing beastiality and just ugh all this other shit. that's the stuff I hate to hear. 
 
For one, my Aunt is a lesbian. unfortunately (and this is so wrong to say) her "partner" is not good looking at all. but if there ever is a lesbian wedding I think it'd be real damn interesting to attend. And also, anyone who legitimately hates gay people has clearly never spent time with them. Lesbians are fun to hang out with. 
 

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As long as the gay guy isn't going over his boundaries with my girlfriend/wife.
 

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elcheato said:
The bible says that Jesus condones sacrificing children but we don't preach that.
 
lol, no it doesn't.  Well...not unless you're talking about God sacrificing his only son for the greater good. 
 

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I am a Christian, but I will flat out tell all of you that I look forward to the day when an outdated rule book doesn't pigeonhole the opinions of a significant group of people.
 

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AE 2k13 said:
 
lol, no it doesn't.  Well...not unless you're talking about God sacrificing his only son for the greater good. 
Same shit.
 
and I'm aware how offensive that sounds
 

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I am a Christian, and I support what AP said. I fully expect to be stoned for the following statement, but I do not think that homosexuals should be permitted to marry.
 
If we're keeping this thread on AP, then good for him for saying what he believes in. If we're making a thread about gay marriage and if we agree with it, Ill post there.
 

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and look, just because they are gay, doesnt mean they wanna fuck you
 

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I am male therefore every gay man wants my dick.
 

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WrightStuff said:
I am a Christian, and I support what AP said. I fully expect to be stoned for the following statement, but I do not think that homosexuals should be permitted to marry.
 
If we're keeping this thread on AP, then good for him for saying what he believes in. If we're making a thread about gay marriage and if we agree with it, Ill post there.
 
Just because you think it and it's an opinion does not justify it. You can't deny the rights owed to these individuals. You can oppose the practice all you want, but you can't approve of a scenario in which we legislatively deny their rights--that's not an American perspective.
 
Just figured I'd enlighten you a bit. You're wrong. Simply wrong. That...is fact.
 

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Ah, and there is the false pretense: I do not believe that marriage is a right (though the American government has taken the initiative to ascribe it as one). If we are to look at whether marriage is a right or a privilege (or something else), then we must look at the first institution(s) of marriage and the parameters behind it.
 
Rights are something you are born with, and nobody is born married.
 
So, just because YOU have an opinion, that doesn't mean its correct either. Its our due diligence to find what is morally and ethically correct and enforce that for the good of our nation and future generations.
 

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