2016/17 NBA Regular Season Thread

[dez]

Maaan damn near got into an argument at work with this Laker fan about DeAngelo Russell being overrated..

Dude just swears he's the next savior lol

 

[Paulius]

Now the sports outlets are claiming the Rockets are actual contenders ROFL

some have been claiming that all year

ive been rofling all year


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[bosoxlover12]

I just love it when you say the team with the #2 offense and the 3rd best record in the league isn't a contender
 
Like clearly they are.

 

[Paulius]

playoffs a different animal. need defense.

warriors were insane on the offensive side the last two regular seasons and what happened in the playoffs each year, it wasnt the same

rockets are dope, dont get me wrong. but theyll fold in the playoffs just like every Dantonis team does


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[Paulius]

and its not just the rockets bc of mexi or some shit

ive always been against teams who rely heavily on the jump shooting

and the rockets rely on it even more than the warriors ever did which can go very well some games but can also go reaaaly wrong when the shot is off for a few games


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[Paulius]

Shoutout to luke for benching dangelo and starting clarkson

39-69 nuggets

great idea


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[bosoxlover12]

but theyll fold in the playoffs just like every Dantonis team does
 

this is a joke, right?
 
2005 -- lose to Spurs (won title) in WCF
2006 -- lose to Mavs in WCF, with no Amare (injury)
2007 -- lose to Spurs (won title) in 2nd round
2008 -- lose to Spurs in 1st round
 
2008 they did that dumb ass Marion for Shaq trade that fucked up DAntoni's system, and the other 3 years they lost to the WCF Champions. It's not like Chris Paul's teams that can't even make the WCF... MDA's squads always were really good but just faced really good competition. Those Spurs teams in 05 and 07 were REALLY good
 
To say Houston doesn't really have a shot because of the Suns track record is just so dumb. They're below the Spurs and Warriors, but to count them out is just pure naiveté

 

[BNC]

You didn't even mention the Robert Horry bodyceck of Steve Nash leading to Raja Bell and Stoudamire being suspended for game 5 in Phoenix in the 2007 series

 

[BNC]

This also completely ignores why the Rockets play the way they do and shoot as many 3s as possible. They're not nearly as talented as GSW, the only way they can beat Golden State is by playing in a style that increases the variance. Ideally the Rockets would play extremely slow against the Warriors but by shooting 60 3s a game they increase their odds of winning a game, but they do also increase their odds of getting blown out which will likely just be attributed to a lack of defense rather than actually understanding their play style

 

[Paulius]

we can bicker here all night, i dont believe in teams that rely on jump shooting this much and expect to beat teams in the playoffs without defense. simple. like it or not, i dont give a fuck, if they win, good for them


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[BNC]

But teams that post up and rely on the mid range can beat teams without defense? Is this a jump shooting thing or a lack of defense thing?

 

[Mexi]

Maaan damn near got into an argument at work with this Laker fan about DeAngelo Russell being overrated..
Dude just swears he's the next savior lol

zubac is the savior

 

[bosoxlover12]

Also, "reliant on jump shooting", in terms of the percentage of the team's attempts by distance --
 
Rockets shoot 5th most from 0-3 ft, 25th from 3-10ft, 30th in 10-16ft, 30th in 16ft < 3pt, and 1st in 3pt. 
Again, these are percentages of the shots taken, not the efficiencies of them going in.
 
Rockets are not a jump shooting team at all. They are a 3pt shooting team, which is completely different. They shoot in the most efficient spots on the floor -- at the rim, and behind the arc. It's actually really smart basketball.

 

[Mexi]

But teams that post up and rely on the mid range can beat teams without defense? Is this a jump shooting thing or a lack of defense thing?

he adds defense to his claim because its already been proven that jump shooting teams can win it all

 

[Paulius]

he adds defense to his claim because its already been proven that jump shooting teams can win it all

when was it proven?


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[BNC]

he adds defense to his claim because its already been proven that jump shooting teams can win it all

It's a very convenient argument

 

[Paulius]

obviously not talking about the midrange when we are talking about the houston rockets/dantonis system and i say jump shooting.

again, those threes can be analytically the right thing to do, but my point is they will have cold days. defense in the playoffs is different, the preassure is different, it wont be as easy as it is now for them #foldingchairs


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[BNC]

when was it proven?


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The last 2 years basically

 

[Paulius]

mexi if youre talking about the warriors in 2015, lel

easiest cakewalk in the histroy of the game


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[Paulius]

if anything, 2015 proved that its all about defense when the golden boys couldnt even take down matt delly without a fight lmaoo


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