2015 NBA Off-Season Thread

[elcheato]

DeAndre Jordan and Chris Paul's relationship is what people think LeBron and Love are like

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Wasn't nola calling Jordan overrated all year?

I'm just wondering how they replace him

 

[CameronCrazy06]

So who is Dallas' PG? Because they're a PG away from having a pretty solid team. Sucks for them because Rondo with his head on straight would've been great

 

[elcheato]

I just wanna know if the Mavs really told him they would feature him, and if Jordan really thinks he can be the man in Dallas, because that's funny

 

[elcheato]

Also, beware's opinion of Jordan just drastically improved

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Wasn't nola calling Jordan overrated all year?

I'm just wondering how they replace him

Overrated in the sense that he's this modern day Bill Russell (I heard someone refer to him this way just today), but is he a hell of a defender? Of course. I even talked about how much id love him alongside AD.

 

[elcheato]

Trying to imagine how many rebounds he'll average playing next to Dirk and not Blake. I reckon all of them.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Overrated in the sense that he's this modern day Bill Russell (I heard someone refer to him this way just today), but is he a hell of a defender? Of course. I even talked about how much id love him alongside AD.

Swear to god you said he was an average defender and highly overrated in that aspect

 

[Pugz]

Swear to god you said he was an average defender and highly overrated in that aspect

think that was drummond to be honest.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Nah he said it about Jordan on multiple occasions

 

[jonathanlambert33]

If I said that probably 100% chance I was fucking with you

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Nope. Guess I gotta find the posts

 

[CameronCrazy06]

DeAndre is an interesting case. He doesn't give you much of anything offensively outside of dunks, and his defense really isn't as good as people think it is. But the guy does pull down a ton of boards (even though some of it is stat padding), block a lot of shots, and effect even more.

I don't think that's even remotely the case. Yes he's their anchor, yes he allows their perimeter guys to gamble, etc etc. To many people think just because someone is overrated means they aren't good or even great at something. There are people who think he should have won DPOY over guys like Kawhi and Draymond Green, that would mean he's an elite defender. Atleast IMO. In that sense, he is overrated.

Is he better offensively or does he have Chris Paul? I mean we know you cant throw the ball to DeAndre and ask him to get you two, likely won't happen.

The big sticking point for me is the paint defense, I've been saying this for years but DeAndre is VASTLY overrated in that respect, I'd struggle to even call him average. Here are some guys that defend at the ram better than Jordan. Amare Stoudemire, Marcin Gortat, Cody Zeller, DeMarcus Cousins, and Jonas Valanciunas. That's just some. Meanwhile Gobert leads the league at 38.9%. He was good last season as well at 41.2%. If also look at the foul rate relative to the block rate.

Rebounding, both are good rebounders but I would say Gobert battles more. Jordan pulls down about 45% of contested rebounds, Gobert about 48%. Both improve their teams when on the court rebounding wise.

Can't really speak on the post defense, but post offense is becoming a lost art form in the league. How many scary offensive post players are there left? Very few, you don't face one every night. Maybe not even weekly. So I'm not sure how much that holds up. But I am interested to go back and see which guy is better via the eye test.

Just a quick few

 

[Big Bid'Ness]

 
Sources say Kings/Brewer talks actually broke off BEFORE serious offer stage. Brewer then re-engaged w/Rockets, where he wanted to be along

 

[dez]

Point em out.

DJ to Dallas? Can Barea play starting PG? I don't see why not tbh

Knicks need a shooter with the remaining 7/8mil they have... Who's left though?

 

[Giantmetfan07]

Of course the knicks gave $13.5M per year to Robin Lopez. Suck a knicks move

 

[elcheato]

Point em out.

DJ to Dallas? Can Barea play starting PG? I don't see why not tbh

Knicks need a shooter with the remaining 7/8mil they have... Who's left though?

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Point em out.

DJ to Dallas? Can Barea play starting PG? I don't see why not tbh

Knicks need a shooter with the remaining 7/8mil they have... Who's left though?

 
Barea is definitely not who I would want starting at PG but it may be their only option

 

[Big Bid'Ness]

Point em out.

DJ to Dallas? Can Barea play starting PG? I don't see why not tbh

Knicks need a shooter with the remaining 7/8mil they have... Who's left though?

 
Josh Smith lol

 

[dez]

Point em out.

DJ to Dallas? Can Barea play starting PG? I don't see why not tbh

Knicks need a shooter with the remaining 7/8mil they have... Who's left though?

Lmao

I just went thru a "who's left" article on FAcy

I was about to quote myself with JR as the answer lol

I really wish they would lol