2014 NBA Offseason/Free Agency Thread

[RipCity32]

That's so awesome

 

[Mobruler]

Rose
Afflalo
Butler
Gibson
Noah
 
Solid plan B or C option if the Melo/Love thing falls through.

 
If the Bulls got Afflalo, I'd be like, "damn, that was a great signing".  That guy is awesome.  Does all of the great things you want from a wing in this NBA.  Drains from deep, plays smart team ball, big size, good to great on ball defense.  People hold grudges to Joe Dumars for a lot of things.  My biggest is that he traded Afflalo for nothing.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

https://twitter.com/SamAmicoFSO/status/481238775465799682

 

[RipCity32]

Me too. Outside of Darko, easily his worst move.

 

[Pugz]

Me too. Outside of Darko, easily his worst move.

dealing arron for a second was by far his worst move. ive said it for years, you can't put all the darko blame on dumars.

 

[Mobruler]

dealing arron for a second was by far his worst move. ive said it for years, you can't put all the darko blame on dumars.

 
I'm not sure about "by far".  He did go out with a bang with the Josh Smith signing.

 

[RipCity32]

dealing arron for a second was by far his worst move. ive said it for years, you can't put all the darko blame on dumars.

Yeah you can. He still pulled the trigger on it. Doesn't matter what every GM would've done cause they weren't in his shoes.

 

[Pugz]

Yeah you can. He still pulled the trigger on it. Doesn't matter what every GM would've done cause they weren't in his shoes.

i was more or less blame his scouting team and brain trust.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Rob get back to me in PM's.

 

[bosoxlover12]

Yeah you can. He still pulled the trigger on it. Doesn't matter what every GM would've done cause they weren't in his shoes.

he was an undisputed top 3 prospect, who happened to flop. It just happens to be he was picked ahead of like 3 other all stars.

That's like in 5 years blaming Orlando's GM for taking Dante Exum over Noah Vonleh, Marcus Smart, and Aaron Gordon

 

[RipCity32]

From what I recall, no one liked the pick then and most fans wanted Melo.

Not taking Melo was idiotic. Don't care what they thought of Prince.
You don't take an international prospect solely on raw potential over a freshman who just propelled his team to a national championship.

I was young at the time, so I don't really remember it much. But looking back on it now, I still can't see what made Darko such a can't miss prospect.

 

[bosoxlover12]

He was a 7 footer who was a decent shot blocker, and showed promise that he could score anywhere on the court. His offense never translated in the NBA, and he just became a slow shot blocker. 

 

[RipCity32]

But like I said, based all on raw potential.
He didn't play much in the league he did, and when he did it's not like he set the world on fire. He was about as athletic then as he probably is now. Slow. Just gumpy really. Wasn't nearly as good of a shooter as advertised. And couldn't finish around the rim, which was a knock on him at the time.

Feel like he was drafted that high solely based on his age and height.

Jonas V went much later in a weaker draft, and probably showed just as much potential.

 

[Pugz]

going bosh and josh howard made much more sense for us imo. allows us to still make the trade for sheed and probably grooms bosh into a much stronger player.

 

[bosoxlover12]

But like I said, based all on raw potential.
He didn't play much in the league he did, and when he did it's not like he set the world on fire. He was about as athletic then as he probably is now. Slow. Just gumpy really. Wasn't nearly as good of a shooter as advertised. And couldn't finish around the rim, which was a knock on him at the time.

Feel like he was drafted that high solely based on his age and height.

Jonas V went much later in a weaker draft, and probably showed just as much potential.

 
Jonas went #5, and was projected to go #4 to Cleveland (Which might have been the smarter decision over TT)
 
Read this Chad Ford article from January 03 to get inside on what teams were thinking of Darko.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?id=1490974
 
It was between Darko and Melo, and they chose wrong. But its not like you guys made a bad choice, he just didn't pan out. He was by far the best bigman prospect in the draft, and you guys needed one. As Marty Burns from SI said back in 03, "Given their need for help in the frontcourt, it’s hard to argue with Joe Dumars for taking Milicic over Anthony.", which is definitely true, since you guys needed to trade for one at the deadline.

 

[RipCity32]

Jonas went #5, and was projected to go #4 to Cleveland (Which might have been the smarter decision over TT)
 
Read this Chad Ford article from January 03 to get inside on what teams were thinking of Darko.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?id=1490974
 
It was between Darko and Melo, and they chose wrong. But its not like you guys made a bad choice, he just didn't pan out. He was by far the best bigman prospect in the draft, and you guys needed one. As Marty Burns from SI said back in 03, "Given their need for help in the frontcourt, its hard to argue with Joe Dumars for taking Milicic over Anthony."[/size], which is definitely true, since you guys needed to trade for one at the deadline.

I could just as easily argue we needed a scorer just as bad.
Plus it's not like Darko was expected to contribute big out of the gate. He was incredibly raw. Plus Larry Brown doesn't play rookies. Whether or not he was a position of need doesn't matter because of that.
BPA would've been all around smarter.

 

[Mobruler]

I could just as easily argue we needed a scorer just as bad.
Plus it's not like Darko was expected to contribute big out of the gate. He was incredibly raw. Plus Larry Brown doesn't play rookies. Whether or not he was a position of need doesn't matter because of that.
BPA would've been all around smarter.

 
Yeah, this.  Play at the 3 was never good back then and it was the weakest of the five when they won the title.  I think we went from Michael Curry to Tayshaun Prince.  It's not like the PIstons couldn't have drafted Carmelo because Dr. J was on the roster.

 

[Mobruler]

From what I recall, no one liked the pick then and most fans wanted Melo.

 
There's three times in my life where it was highly speculated that the Pistons were basically sold on a player and the pick was as good as in.  Those were Rodney White, Darko Milicic and Austin Daye.  Fans hated the Darko pick six weeks before the Darko pick.

 

[elcheato]

 
Jonas went #5, and was projected to go #4 to Cleveland (Which might have been the smarter decision over TT)
 
Read this Chad Ford article from January 03 to get inside on what teams were thinking of Darko.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?id=1490974
 
It was between Darko and Melo, and they chose wrong. But its not like you guys made a bad choice, he just didn't pan out. He was by far the best bigman prospect in the draft, and you guys needed one. As Marty Burns from SI said back in 03, "Given their need for help in the frontcourt, it’s hard to argue with Joe Dumars for taking Milicic over Anthony.", which is definitely true, since you guys needed to trade for one at the deadline.

Not really the main topic, but Jonas' agent threatened to keep him overseas for multiple years if the Cavs picked him

 

[Thomas-Panda-Saxby]

I think the raptors will be the darkhorse and grab a good free agent or two