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Mexi said:
Better 3 point shooter
Can defend more positions
Better passer
Better rebounder
More athleticism
Better around the rim
Faster
Stronger
This. I enjoy watching the "how quickly they forget" mj vs lebron vid on youtube whenever this topic occurs.
 

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I said that towards lebron rawk

Youre confusing me
 

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Mexi said:
Nah ive been saying it for a while
Others will back me up
jordan is the best at his position, bron is the best at his.

i can't say one guy is better than everyone, never have.

give me bill russ
 

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And damn, I didn't realize this many people would take LeBron over Jordan.
 

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Mexi said:
I said that towards lebron rawk

Youre confusing me
I was really baked but yeah I agree with those statements. And in that video the one guy says we believe Jordan is the best because he defied conventional wisdom. Or whatever he says like that lol.
 

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Thomas-Panda-Saxby said:
You guys are leaning towards LeBron because you currently watch him.
and most people say Jordan because they can't accept change from the past
 

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elcheato said:
and most people say Jordan because they can't accept change from the past
That essentially why I hate Jordan fans. Some of these dudes act like lebron is average. Its so much closer, especially if they three peat.
 

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People saying LeBron is better than Jordan need to realize that Jordan in his prime would average 40+ a game in today's day and age with all the weak foul calls
 
Different league
 

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Also don't think LeBron is a better defender than Jordan
 

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CameronCrazy06 said:
People saying LeBron is better than Jordan need to realize that Jordan in his prime would average 40+ a game in today's day and age with all the weak foul calls
 
Different league
im not arguing for either of them, and this goes for both sides. You can't just say its a different league as the argument for Jordan and just ignore the rest of the factors. The league as a whole is more talented and more athletic. Studies and research are more advanced, which in turn creates better schemes designed to stop and elevate talent.

It's not that cut and dry of "the league being different now favors Jordan", or even LeBron. There are so many factors at play
 

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I think the state of the league in the 90s vs. the state of the league now favors LeBron more than it favors Jordan though

Also to whoever said Jordan would have more media scrutiny today, yeah maybe until he won a championship but how are you gonna hate on him after that?
 

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I concede that I firmly believe LeBron has become overrated as a defender because of the chase down blocks. He has a tendency to lose sight of his man, now and then, and can't always recover to take away a quick, hard cut to the basket.
 
That's about the only knock I have on his defense, but I don't particularly think he's that dominant, defensively. The job he did on Rose was nice but he had, what 5 inches and 50 pounds on Rose? 
 

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LeBron is an overrated defender. People saying "he can guard 1-5" don't add the word "well" to it. I'm not saying he's a bad defender by any means but people who act like he shuts down every position need to smarten up.
 
With that said he's a top 10 defender in the league
 

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CameronCrazy06 said:
LeBron is an overrated defender. People saying "he can guard 1-5" don't add the word "well" to it. I'm not saying he's a bad defender by any means but people who act like he shuts down every position need to smarten up.
 
With that said he's a top 10 defender in the league
i said that and some here ripped me a new one.
 

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CameronCrazy06 said:
LeBron is an overrated defender. People saying "he can guard 1-5" don't add the word "well" to it. I'm not saying he's a bad defender by any means but people who act like he shuts down every position need to smarten up.
 
With that said he's a top 10 defender in the league
 
His defense this year wasn't as good. I don't think anyone will deny that.
 

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CameronCrazy06 said:
LeBron is an overrated defender. People saying "he can guard 1-5" don't add the word "well" to it. I'm not saying he's a bad defender by any means but people who act like he shuts down every position need to smarten up.
 
With that said he's a top 10 defender in the league
Lmao
 

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I don't think anyone thinks he can shut down all 5 positions.

He is however the only player in the league who can even come close to defending all 5 positions.
 

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Papa Pugzo said:
i said that and some here ripped me a new one.
 
It's true and the only people who think he's this all-world defender are the ESPN hype beasts.
 
I mean he's a great defender but come on. Michael was a better defender. I'd also argue Michael was just as good a passer as LeBron, but just more selfish. If you care to distinguish the two. Michael's selfishness made him better though
 
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