2013-2014 NBA Season Thread

[elcheato]

It looks like it could be at full speed. Looks to me like he took an initial first step before the large step after he picked up his dribble. Either way, some of you just like to complain about calls all the time. Calls get missed, they're not robots.

 

[jayvello]

Highly debatable, but I honestly believe you can't make that call that late in the game.

And I've gone back and watched it, slowed it down, paused it frame by frame. Wasn't even close to a travel, he picks up the ball with literally a left toe on the free throw line. His right foot is behind, about midway through the free throw arc. He takes one LARGE step past the broken arc and establishes his right foot as his pivot foot, and never picks it up or changes pivots.

I know that is extremely excessive, and a official obviously can't break it down to that degree live, but my point remains that you just can't call that in a two point game with about a minute and a half left.

okay even if there are only 2 steps, he would have to shoot. Unless he took a hop step which he didnt. Right?

fuckit what is traveling anymore

 

[jonathanlambert33]

what kind of injury does he have/

Same thing Peyton Manning had. Herniated disk, still feels tingling in his fingers.

 

[buzzy]

It's a normal two and a half steps that would not be talked about had he finished with a layup. It's just that he stops on a dime and establishes a new pivot, which I always thought is getting away with a travel.
 
But, everybody does it. It's not called on a regular basis, at all.

 

[Pugz]

The last three 55-point games in the NBA have now come against the Charlotte Bobcats (LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony and Deron Williams).

 

[buzzy]

And they aren't even a bad defensive team.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

You blind? He took many steps lul

He picks up the ball at the ft line. Right foot trailing.

He takes one large step past the broken hashes.

and establishes his right foot as his pivot foot.

and never picks it up.

I'm not sure in what way is that a travel, or as you put it many steps. I'm also not sure how anyone thinks it's even remotely possible how that is 3-5 steps.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

It looks like it could be at full speed. Looks to me like he took an initial first step before the large step after he picked up his dribble. Either way, some of you just like to complain about calls all the time. Calls get missed, they're not robots.

They should not get missed at the rapid rate they do every night, however.

 

[buzzy]

Bottom line, the blonde lady is right.

 

[elcheato]

They should not get missed at the rapid rate they do every night, however.

You complain about refs in the NFL too. Not sure why you continue to watch sports when you have such a huge issue with the everyone who has ever refereed a sport.

 

[elcheato]

For people who complain about NBA officials or officials in general CONSTANTLY, I'm not exactly sure what you want. They go through training and lower levels of basketball before they're even allowed to officiate NBA games.
 
If you want to know the difference between officials who have made it to this level, and those who haven't, look no further than the replacement referees in the NFL. That was a disaster. Calls will get missed, no one is perfect, and you can't just go firing these guys if they do miss calls. For multiple reasons, A) you'd struggle to find employees, B) they have a union.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

I complain about obvious calls that shouldn't be missed. 50/50 or opinionated calls are going to be missed, I've explained as much. Like you said they are humans, not robots, but at the same time there is zero reason refs should miss the amount of obvious calls they do in the NBA, on a routine basis. Zero reason. Luke Kuechly in the end zone for example, or this travel call. Or Austin Rivers at the end of the game in Dallas. List goes on and on. You don't need a robot to see those calls.

God forbid we strive for something greater.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

I complain about obvious calls that shouldn't be missed. 50/50 or opinionated calls are going to be missed, I've explained as much. Like you said they are humans, not robots, but at the same time there is zero reason refs should miss the amount of obvious calls they do in the NBA, on a routine basis. Zero reason. Luke Kuechly in the end zone for example, or this travel call. Or Austin Rivers at the end of the game in Dallas. List goes on and on. You don't need a robot to see those calls.

God forbid we strive for something greater.

I can tell you with 100% certainty that Austin Rivers doesn't make all three free throws so you don't have to worry about that one haha.

 

[elcheato]

Well then what's your solution? Send an official down to the minors any time they blow a call, dock their pay anytime they blow a call? Convince Harvard graduates to become officials instead of going on Wall Street?
 
"Obvious" calls that involve the greatest athletes in the world in real time in an accelerated pace, aren't usually obvious.
 
Striving for something greater is fine, but that's not what you're doing.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

I can tell you with 100% certainty that Austin Rivers doesn't make all three free throws so you don't have to worry about that one haha.

Lol agreed. Weirdest thing though, I think it was last month he made like 17 or 18 straight. Now he's back at about 58% since then.

Though he had one game where he was 1-6.

 

[jayvello]

He picks up the ball at the ft line. Right foot trailing.

He takes one large step past the broken hashes.

and establishes his right foot as his pivot foot.

and never picks it up.

I'm not sure in what way is that a travel, or as you put it many steps. I'm also not sure how anyone thinks it's even remotely possible how that is 3-5 steps.

Regardless if you take two steps without dribbling the ball it is traveling. After those two steps he had to shoot the ball or get called for traveling. It doesn't matter if it gets called all the time or not, that was a good call based on the rules

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Well then what's your solution? Send an official down to the minors any time they blow a call, dock their pay anytime they blow a call? Convince Harvard graduates to become officials instead of going on Wall Street?
 
"Obvious" calls that involve the greatest athletes in the world in real time in an accelerated pace, aren't usually obvious.
 
Striving for something greater is fine, but that's not what you're doing.

Let me just put it in simple terms for you. Adam Silver seems to be taking steps to improving the officiating in the league, something Stern never really did as far as we know. So he, is striving for something greater.

There are, believe it or not, some teams of officials that are really good, and some that are really bad. I'm interested to see if those groups are shuffled around in order of quality (or whatever you want to call it) now that Stern is out of the big chair.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Regardless if you take two steps without dribbling the ball it is traveling. After those two steps he had to shoot the ball or get called for traveling. It doesn't matter if it gets called all the time or not, that was a good call based on the rules

To me, it sounds like you really don't understand the rules.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Or understand what a step even is lol

 

[jayvello]

You're right. Pretty high at the moment

b. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion of a dribble, may use a two-count rhythm in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball.