2010/2011 MLB Offseason thread

[Mexi]

lol at 12 mill for him.

idk how you can say that
he's a great pitcher

go look at his numbers. solid.
2nd half this past year was excellent
and again, 1 year deal. lol for sure if it was 3 or 4 years.

this past season he made about 13M (i said 15 up there)
look at some other pitchers.

Barry Zito: 18.5MM
Carlos Zambrano: 18MM
John Lackey: 18MM
Derek Lowe: 15MM
Jeff Suppan: 12.75MM
Aaron Harang: 12.5MM
Gil Meche: 12MM
Jake Westbrook: 11MM
Bronson Arroyo: 11MM
Kevin Millwood: 12MM
Ryan Dempster: 13.5MM

he's better than all those pitchers except maybe Zambrano if Z is like he was after his anger management stuff.
and maybe John Lackey, but it's marginal. definitely not worth 6MM more than Hiroki

and 1 more time, 1 year deal. not bad at all.

Fangraphs said he was worth 17MM this past season

 

[elcheato]

All of those pitchers you named are overpaid

and Fan Graphs says Shin Soo Choo is worth 20 million dollars..

 

[Mexi]

Choo had an excellent season

everyone is either overpaid or underpaid

i mean seriously, is ARod really worth 30M? no
but this past season if i had to give a 30M contract, it would have been to a Josh Hamilton or Miguel Cabrera

Kuroda was really good this past season.
i'd rather have him at 1/12M than a multiple year deal because of his injury history

trust me, he's not being overpaid. i'd be the first to criticize the deal

i get it though. he's our 3rd or 4th starter and he's getting paid like a #1
but when you look at what other pitchers his caliber got, Dodgers have no choice
he would have gotten 12M anywhere

 

[Elite]

I don't think they understand that he's a #2 starter, maybe a #3 starter. Most of the #2s around the league are being paid similarly, many more who don't deserve it as well.

 

[Mexi]

you're right
he's a pretty good #2, but on the Dodgers he's 3/4 because of kershaw and billingsley

and the other 4M is a bonus

it's an 8MM deal, with a 4MM bonus that will be payed in 2012 and 2013 - from Jayson Stark

 

[Phil The Thrill]

Twins extend Gardenhire through 2013 http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5821419

 

[Phil The Thrill]

Minor trade between Astros and Rockies

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5821482

 

[elcheato]

South Korea won the Asian Games Gold Medal, Choo was apart of the team and earned a military exemption He hit like .570 with 3 HRs and a bunch of RBis in a small tournament.

 

[Phil The Thrill]

Astros are up for Sale

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5826885

 

[snipezo]

Manny seems to like Toronto a lot. Apparently he'll be visiting T-Dot this weekend again.

 

[RipCity32]

Joaquin Benoit <333

Now let's get a hitter.

 

[Elite]

You ridiculously overpaid for Benoit, I wouldn't be happy about that.

 

[Phil The Thrill]

I really hope Manny signs in Toronto tbh.

 

[RipCity32]

You are right, he wasn't one of the best set-up men in the league last year or anything.

 

[Elite]

And that was the only good year of his career. He has one year wonder written all over him.

 

[RipCity32]

Came off a major injury better than ever. He's basically a new player than what he was.

 

[Elite]

Oh, even better, he's had injury problems in the past, you should feel much better about this signing.

 

[RipCity32]

I do seeing as he played the entire season at a high level.

 

[elcheato]

The Yankees overpay for everyone, and Yankee fans are always happy with the off-season, so Rip can be happy because he doesn't pay the bills.

 

[RipCity32]

It is ironic that a Yankees fan is arguing this with me eh? lol
If they sign him, it's a good deal and they had to outbid the competitors.