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Again, I cast for Q who has dhown with all things considered to eb the best and most consistent pitcher of the lot since 2013.

ok, so i looked at the following pitchers: Lester, Quintana, Arrieta, Tanaka, Hamels, Darvish, Cueto, Price, Fernandez, and Noah.  I used WAR/IP/ERA/FIP/XFIP to start. When i looked at the rankings across the starters from 2013 to present I initially have it going Price, Jake, Lester, Cueto...

I will explain my vote happily.  I realize it may not follow whatever if any standards folks have on voting but let's make the argument.   Give me some time and I'll get it in here.  :)

u forgot to vote.   I was between hm and Q.  I went with Q for doing it year in and year out.

They Cy is between Kluber and Sale

I can't see a Red Sox winning it.  They aren't the difference individually.  The Red Sox lineup is that good.

Q > Jake

Any team over .500 is in the playoff run. 

I think they are in the play, I just doubt they'll pony up the value needed to get him.

With the pitching staff and guys like Abreu, Cabrera, Eaton, and Frazier, they really only need a CF and an average catcher and they are right in the playoff hunt.  You stating that they are three years away is a bit off.  They also continue to have some interesting pitchers coming up and just...

The argument is quite easy.  Are the Red Sox even a .500 team against the teams that play .500 or better?  The Rangers are 28-30 games over .500 against those upper echelon teams.  That pretty much shows against who the Red Sox have been feasting on.

Agreed.  It makes it worse, not better

The weakness of the Sale/Sox relationship is serverly overblown by folks that hate the White Sox and/or want Sale on the cheap.  Won't be happening.  No one will give what it would take or have what it would take.  The Cubs have no pitching to offer so they are out.  The Red Sox or Dodgers or...

Why are people putting Thor and Jose over Sale, Kulber and MadBum?  That should be more puzzling to you CC06

I'm not sure they are the best team in the East.  I'd take Texas for sure over the Red Sox.  Possibly the Indians as well.

The Cubs don't have enough to get a Chris Sale unless they get serious about parting with active 25 guys.   Realistically the White Sox aren't going to trade any of their top four pitchers (Sale, Q, Gonzales, Rodon).  They may part with Fulmer, but that is also unlikely.  They need to improve in...

And we are now two years closer to a big problem for the franchise.

Wait, there is a great GM that is lauded everywhere that says you can't do both.  Wonder how LA is doing that? 

Same reason I took Sale, I take Kluber.  More Experience, actually is there to pitch.  Has what will be three season in a row with well over 200 innings pitched.  It's really not even close for me.

Still dumbfounded that Noah took #3 and that Jose with him not having a 200 IP season can be leading this.  Just floors me.