Raiders trade for Palmer

[DJT]

Oakland and Cincinnati are on the verge of completing one of the NFL's biggest trade-deadline deals in decades, with the Raiders acquiring holdout quarterback Carson Palmer from the Bengals in exchange for a two first-round picks, according to sources familiar with the deal.

The first first-round pick is in 2012 and the other is a conditional first-round pick in 2013.

It's a bold move for each team.

Cincinnati is empowering a team it could be competing against for a playoff spot or even in the postseason. The Raiders are turning over another high pick for a quarterback that has been holding out and has struggled in recent seasons when some around the league questioned his arm strength. But ultimately, both sides believed it a gamble worth taking.

The deal became feasible when the Raiders lost starting quarterback Jason Campbell to a broken collarbone and the Bengals watched rookie quarterback Andy Dalton lead Cincinnati to a 4-2 record.

Oakland and Cincinnati spent much of Monday discussing the deal to the point early Monday night when a select few people realized it could happen. People involved in the deal's discussions thought it could happen, but they also recognized how delicate the talks were.

Palmer has been working out in Southern California with former Jets quarterback Ken O'Brien. Palmer also has a strong relationship with Raiders head coach Hue Jackson, with the two men having worked together in Cincinnati from 2004-2006, when Jackson was the Bengals' receivers coach.

Now Palmer will become another former Bengal to make his way west to the Raiders. And Oakland needs him. With Campbell out, the Raiders turned to Kyle Boller to replace him and also had Terrelle Pryor on the bench.

The trade became possible for the Bengals because Dalton has been impressive throughout training camp and the season's first six games.

Palmer was willing to restructure his contract, which would pay him $6.9 million for the balance of this season, sources said. In Dec. 2005, he signed an extension with the Bengals through 2014 that was valued at $118.75 million that had remained in tact when he informed the Bengals in January that he wanted a trade or would retire. He has never spoken publicly about his status and his agent, David Dunn, has only confirmed the original report that Palmer had met with Bengals owner Mike Brown to inform him of his feelings. It has been reported recently that Palmer himself had been speaking to Brown to persuade him to make a trade.

Palmer's wife, Shaelynn, is a former swimmer he met at USC and was raised in the San Jose area.

Until now, the biggest recent trade-deadline deals involved receivers. One came in 2008, when the Detroit Lions sent wide receiver Roy Williams and a seventh-round pick to the Dallas Cowboys in exhanged for first-, third- and sixth-round picks in 2009. The same week, Williams agreed to a five-year, $45 million extension that included more than $20 million guaranteed. Williams wound up being released before training camp began last summer.

In 2009, the Browns traded wide receiver Braylon Edwards to the Jets. But rarely have trade deadline deals involved quarterbacks, especially ones in a situation like Palmer's.

Adam Schefter is ESPN's NFL Insider. Chris Mortensen is a senior NFL analyst for ESPN.

Great deal for the Bengals....2 1sts.

 

[.infamous]

Damn Mike Brown actually did a good move.

 

[DJT]

A good one at that. 2 1sts (1 conditional) for a guy who wasn't even playing.

Now they just gotta hope the Raiders start losing.

 

[The Young One]

Bengals won...Mike Brown Won

 

[elcheato]

How the fuck did they swing this? He's worth maybe one 2nd round pick, if that.

 

[WHO-DEY-BENGALS_18]

Mike Brown won???

:rotfl:

How often do you hear that?

 

[Giantmetfan07]

Holy fuck

Mortenson says the 2nd pick is actually a 2013 2nd rounder that becomes a 1st round pick if the Raiders win a playoff game this year

 

[WHO-DEY-BENGALS_18]

Jay Glazer of Fox Sports on Carson trade: It's Happy Hour in Cincinnati. Marvin Lewis should be ready to have a margarita. #Bengals

 

[swoosh]

Lawl, only the Raiders. What a joke of a front office.

 

[SaintFan25]

Lmao stupid Raiders.

 

[RipCity32]

They might of gave up a lot, but I still like the deal for the Raiders.
I think Palmer will really help that team.

I mean they had to do something.

 

[WHO-DEY-BENGALS_18]

It might pay off for the Raiders. If Carson plays at a high level, people won't be looking at this trade as a loss for the Raiders. I have a feeling he will be a good QB for the Raiders, if he's got time to pass the ball and his WR's aren't running the wrong routes, he will play really well. I'm sure in the long run, if he plays at a high level for the Raiders, it will only make the Bengals look even worse, for him wanting out, then going to another team and playing well. He's got a great running game in Oakland.

 

[SaintFan25]

Yeah I think the Raiders made the right decision to trade for him and I think he'll do well in Oakland, I just think they gave up too much.

 

[WHO-DEY-BENGALS_18]

Actually, Mike Brown's stubborness paid off here by waiting, got a desperate team such as the Raiders looking for a QB. They probably gave up more than what any other team offered the Bengals for Palmer.

 

[Elite]

The Raiders gave up WAY too much. Just when I thought they were moving in the right direction as a franchise they go and fuck this up. Carson Palmer isn't worth one first round pick, let alone too. 2005 Palmer is traded for this kind of package, not current Carson.

 

[WHO-DEY-BENGALS_18]

The Raiders gave up WAY too much. Just when I thought they were moving in the right direction as a franchise they go and fuck this up. Carson Palmer isn't worth one first round pick, let alone too. 2005 Palmer is traded for this kind of package, not current Carson.

The second first round pick will only be a first round pick if the Raiders win a playoff game, otherwise it will be one first round pick in 2012 and a second round pick in 2013. Just depends on what the Raiders do as far as getting two- first round picks.

 

[Elite]

The second first round pick will only be a first round pick if the Raiders win a playoff game, otherwise it will be one first round pick in 2012 and a second round pick in 2013. Just depends on what the Raiders do as far as getting two- first round picks.

Doesn't matter. A first and a second is still far too much for a QB who hasn't been all that good since 2006.

 

[WHO-DEY-BENGALS_18]

I don't put anything past Carson Palmer. Going to a new team with lots of good pieces, who knows what might happen. I've heard some "experts" say he will be a top-10 QB. I'm not saying he will, but lets just say it wouldn't surprise me any if it did happen. Good offensive line, decent WR's, awesome running game, he will be happy I'm sure. We'll see how people think about it as he plays with the Raiders.

 

[Bengals1Fan]

Im for once proud to be a bengals fan

 

[Elite]

I don't put anything past Carson Palmer. Going to a new team with lots of good pieces, who knows what might happen. I've heard some "experts" say he will be a top-10 QB. I'm not saying he will, but lets just say it wouldn't surprise me any if it did happen. Good offensive line, decent WR's, awesome running game, he will be happy I'm sure. We'll see how people think about it as he plays with the Raiders.

He's no longer on the Bengals, you don't have to blindly defend him anyway.

They don't have a lot of good pieces, they have a bunch of scrub WRs, a shitty OL, and a great, but inconsistent RB.