2011 NBA Finals Thread

[cruzg24]

Man I love Jason Kidd, and Im glad he won it. Man so many guys playing in the league for so long and they got their rings.......

 

[RipCity32]

So Rasheed Wallace > Karl Malone.

Lol. Were they close in talent? Not really.

Like I honestly don't wanna talk to you if you don't think those teams weren't built around Isiah and he was the franchise player...

And only reason John had a longer career is cuz Zeke tore his achilles and retired because he couldn't play at the high level he was used too.

I guarantee you John Stockton would trade his career for Isiah's

+1
TYO>

 

[DannyColtsBro]

0 rings.

LOL Seriously? Robert Horry > Michael, Kobe > Magic? HELLLLLL NOOOOOO. Cmon dude you're better than that.

 

[elcheato]

You're using a rings argument when you constantly say LeBron is the best player in the world?

 

[RipCity32]

It's really impossible to debate here when words are taken out of your mouth lol.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Like I honestly don't wanna talk to you if you don't think those teams weren't built around Isiah and he was the franchise player...

And only reason John had a longer career is cuz Zeke tore his achilles and retired because he couldn't play at the high level he was used too.

I guarantee you John Stockton would trade his career for Isiah's

Obviously Isiah Thomas was the best player on those Detroit teams, but to say the team was BUILT AROUND HIM is terribly mistaken. Look at stats. Watch tapes. Etc. That team was so well rounded. Like I said, I don't think we've seen a more well-rounded champion since those Pistons teams. (I'd also like to add '04 Pistons to the list I provided earlier)

Stop using rings as your only arguement. Based on that logic, Ray Allen > Elgin Baylor, Rasheed Wallace > Karl Malone, Tyson Chandler > Patrick Ewing, etc. If you aren't going to actually provide actual reasons for your opinion and are just going to continue to talk out of your ass then I'm not going to waste my time. How about you watch some ESPN Classic and get back to be because tbh you're probably just basing this off NBA Street Vol. 2.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

You're using a rings argument when you constantly say LeBron is the best player in the world?

Ice ice baby. Rip is frozen.

 

[RipCity32]

Lol I'm really not though. It is becoming so pointless to debate here.

 

[cruzg24]

Oops forgot about JET, lol.

 

[cruzg24]

Ok fine guys, Dirk top 15 player of all-time.

 

[The Young One]

Stop using dumb ass examples.. I'm comparing Zeke and Stockton

Use the players we're talking about

Zeke got his rings and played shorter...Since John had a longer career is a positive for him..where are his rings...

Talk about how after the dream team snub..how IT shitted on John for 42/44 and how Malone gave Zeke 40 stitches cuz he was abusing Stockton so bad..and how zeke still came back and torched Stockton for 11 points in the 4th

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Lol I'm really not though. It is becoming so pointless to debate here.

Lol you just got caught. I understand you're a Pistons fan so you think Isiah is better because of that. Care to give some actual reasons now?

 

[Hurricane Season]

Dirtier player: Zeke or Stockton?

 

[The Young One]

It's not even a debate like me and rip said..Stockton would trade his career's for Zeke's

 

[RipCity32]

Lol you just got caught. I understand you're a Pistons fan so you think Isiah is better because of that. Care to give some actual reasons now?

I didn't get caught. Nor am I going to debate lol.
I could care less bout your opinion or whom you believe is better.
I think Zeke is, I have plenty of reasons to why. Have a good night.

 

[DJT]

*looks back at the Jimmer thread...

 

[cruzg24]

Dirks legacy on ESPN!!! Excited to watch!

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Stop using dumb ass examples.. I'm comparing Zeke and Stockton

Use the players we're talking about

Zeke got his rings and played shorter...Since John had a longer career is a positive for him..where are his rings...

Talk about how after the dream team snub..how IT shitted on John for 42/44 and how Malone gave Zeke 40 stitches cuz he was abusing Stockton so bad..and how zeke still came back and torched Stockton for 11 points in the 4th

Lol you're just a one trick pony. You keep bringing up the same shit over and over again... broken record? Your only arguement is rings (despite playing on an amazing team which Stockton never did) and one game. Do I need to mention that Stockton is actually 9-8 against Isiah Thomas in his career? That he averaged 14 and 12 against Isaiah? I shouldn't.

Fact of the matter is, if he were talking head-to-head matchups as reasoning for who is greater than who, Carmelo would be a better player than LeBron. You can try to avoid reasoning for your rings arguement, but when you use it for other players, it just proves that the logic is flawed. Come on man, you're better than that.

If you're willing to actually talk basketball, I'm game. Stockton ran his team better, did more with less, top two passer in NBA history, one of the best defensive PGs in NBA history, better shooter, etc. Isaiah Thomas was a more dynamic scorer. That's all I see.

 

[The Young One]

Since stockton ran his team better what did they accomplish?

And wouldn't that actually make Isiah a even more dominating player since he dominated him post dream team...

Like seriously its a joke..hence why nobody backs it..Like me and rip said earlier Stockton would trade all his records for Isiah's career

I'm done..I'm sure your gonna post more pointless espn stats..or your biased opinion

 

[elcheato]

Dirks legacy on ESPN!!! Excited to watch!