Kobe directs homophobic slur towards ref

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OK.. but by making it THIS big of an issue, and having ourselves talk about it like we are. It's just sparks more drama for the opinions on gay movements.

I'm sure we can find other athletes who have done this, and nothing has been said.. It's just the heat of battle. Guys say stupid stuff.
Well it is a big issue in society today. This doesn't just go for Kobe of course, but even if it was just something in the heat of the battle, I still lose respect for Kobe; it's just demeaning in my opinion. I'm sure he doesn't mean it like that but this is why some slang is so stupid nowadays, and it just shows how the world is these days in my opinion.
 

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A lot of the time, most people don't even use the word <Censored> in the homosexual way, it's just an insult. When people say fuck you they don't wanna actually fuck the dude
 

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A lot of the time, most people don't even use the word <Censored> in the homosexual way, it's just an insult. When people say fuck you they don't wanna actually fuck the dude
Fuck is not degrading a type of person though. If you're calling someone a f*ggot, then you're basically saying that being gay is something bad and wrong.
 

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Not really. The n word degrades a race. Making fun of someone for their homosexuality goes against many people's religious beliefs.
 

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Not really. The n word degrades a race. Making fun of someone for their homosexuality goes against many people's religious beliefs.
True. You're right about the n word being a race; but you could group gays in the race category too because they are a type of people. Being gay shouldn't go against anyones religious beliefs, even if you're Cristian; you have to accept everyone for what they are.
 

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Homosexuality isn't a race, it's a sexual preference. Not even close to being the same.

And I never said whether I agreed with the religious people or not, I think all religions are retarded, but not for this reason, but there are many who believe in them and if it goes against their religion they're not going to support it.
 

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Homosexuality isn't a race, it's a sexual preference. Not even close to being the same.

And I never said whether I agreed with the religious people or not, I think all religions are retarded, but not for this reason, but there are many who believe in them and if it goes against their religion they're not going to support it.
You should know what I mean. Black people are a type of people. Gay people are a type of people. Straight people are a type of people. How could anyone hate gays just because they like the same sex? It doesn't make sense to me at all.

They aren't going to support it; but if they are true to their religion, they wont bash it, or call anyone a gay slur at all.
 

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Calling someone a f*ggot is nearly as bad as using the n word.

Edit: I'd say equally actually.
Really? Fucking really? Calling some one a faggot is not even close to saying nigger.

Do you fucking realize that black people were enslaved for over 450 YEARS!?!?

Gay people can come in and out of the closet when ever they fucking please. You can't hide being black.

The fact that you would even consider the gays "struggle" the same as the African Americans struggle is hilarious.
 

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Really? Fucking really? Calling some one a faggot is not even close to saying nigger.

Do you fucking realize that black people were enslaved for over 450 YEARS!?!?

Gay people can come in and out of the closet when ever they fucking please. You can't hide being black.

The fact that you would even consider the gays "struggle" the same as the African Americans struggle is hilarious.
I didn't say I would consider the gay struggle to be the same struggle as the black struggle. I'm saying the words are equally as demeaning to each person TODAY. And I come from a black family my self, I know what went down in the past. This is not what I'm trying to argue though; I'm just trying to argue that gay slurs are just stupid to use in this day in age after all the world has been through. We aren't even close to a peaceful world.
 

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I didn't say I would consider the gay struggle to be the same struggle as the black struggle. I'm saying the words are equally as demeaning to each person TODAY. And I come from a black family my self, I know what went down in the past. This is not what I'm trying to argue though; I'm just trying to argue that gay slurs are just stupid to use in this day in age after all the world has been through. We aren't even close to a peaceful world.
Trillz. It came off as if you were trying to compare the two but I guess not
 

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Really? Fucking really? Calling some one a faggot is not even close to saying nigger.

Do you fucking realize that black people were enslaved for over 450 YEARS!?!?

Gay people can come in and out of the closet when ever they fucking please. You can't hide being black.

The fact that you would even consider the gays "struggle" the same as the African Americans struggle is hilarious.




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The only reason any of this is still a problem is because people make it a problem. Faggot has like 20 other meanings other than gay person and a lot of those even came BEFORE that usage. So, what's the big deal?

The n word is an entirely different topic but has a similar result. There is the original term (the one that ends in -er) that was used as a pejorative term to refer to black people. Thankfully, that stupid word has been pretty much done away with. But it spawned an entirely new word (<Censored>) that, somehow, is less offensive but, as I understand it, is only really okay to use if you are black.

Here's the solution: if you have a problem and stop using the word, that's great. But if you want to keep using it, don't bitch when people start saying <Censored>. Either have a problem with the word <Censored>, in any context, or don't have a problem at all.
 
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