Nabakov to Detroit?

[Lake Louise]

I'll be happy if it happens, but i'm not getting my hopes up. Clearing waivers is the big road block right now.

 

[Phil The Thrill]

He's such a steal at 570K. I heard there are many conditions in his contract though.

Also just a rumour I heard from someone, I have no source, but if he is claimed, his contract allows him to not report to the team he is claimed by.

 

[WHO-DEY-BENGALS_18]

I'm sure some team will love to ruin it for the Red Wings, but I hope it goes through without any problems. It'd be cool to see Nabakov in a Red Wings uniform. He was a pretty good goalie at San Jose.

 

[The Guid]

If he is claimed, he can't be moved without having to pass through waivers again. Also heard that, if he does go on waivers again, DET gets first claim or something.

There's gotta be something that would make him in-claimable.

 

[LeafsFan4Life]

I don't feel bad for feeling confused and a little confounded by Evgeni Nabokov's waiver situation with the Detroit Red Wings.

Because many people within the NHL community -- GMs, assistant GMs, capologists and a number of agents -- have also struggled with the ins and outs of what could happen to the free-agent goalie who has signed with the Wings.

Here's an outline of the circumstances. If it's incorrect in any way -- and I always allow for that possibility -- there are countless NHL team people and agents who will share in my shame.

So, with fingers crossed, here we go:

-- Nabokov's waiver period ends at 12 noon eastern on Saturday.
-- any of the NHL's 29 teams -- other than Detroit, of course -- may put in a claim on Nabokov.

-- if no team claims Nabokov, he becomes a member of DET's 23-man NHL roster.

-- if only one team claims Nabokov that team will be awarded him.

-- if more than one team puts in a claim on Nabokov, the team that is lowest in the standings (worst winning percentage) on the day Nabokov was put on waivers (today) is awarded the player.

-- as a pro player who has played in Europe after the NHL season has begun, Nabokov is subject to some specific waiver regulations (which are different from "normal" waivers for players who start and finish the season in the NHL) after the initial claim has been made.

That includes the following:

-- If the team that claims and is awarded Nabokov decides to subsequently trade or assign the player, they must:

a) put Nabokov back on waivers again, where any team, including the Detroit Red Wings, could then claim him. Again, priority claim belongs to the team lowest in the standings.
Only if Nabokov clears waivers would the team holding his rights be able to trade him.

b) get Nabokov's permission to put him on waivers and/or trade him as Nabokov, once he is a member in good standing of the NHL, has a No Movement Clause in his contract.

Only if those conditions are satisfied could Nabokov end up up with a team other than the one who claimed him on waivers from DET.

The bottom line here is as follows:

-- there is no way for DET to make any orchestrated "arrangements" to get Nabokov back from the team that claims him unless Detroit is successful in claiming him on waivers the second time around. If any team lower than Detroit in the standings put in a claim, Nabokov would go to that team.

-- there is no way for a team who claims and gets Nabokov to easily flip him in a trade as he must go through waivers again, giving every team including Detroit an opportunity to claim for nothing more than the set waiver price, which is $3,375.

So any team that claims Nabokov on waivers is likely to do so for the purpose of having him in their lineup for the balance of the season as Nabokov's NMC effectively controls when or if he moves again. The only way the team that claims and is awarded Nabokov tomorrow can subsequently get rid of Nabokov is with the player's permission.

The general feeling within the NHL community is that Nabokov will not clear waivers tomorrow. That his relatively low annual salary -- $570,000 is only $70,000 more than the league minimum -- and favorable cap hit will entice teams to perhaps bring him in to replace a less experienced backup goalie who in some cases is already making more than $570,000.

But given the waiver regulations on Nabokov and his no move clause, the team that claims him is likely to be committed to Nabokov for the balance of the season because he may not necessarily be easy to get rid of.

If Nabokov is a claimed by a team but decides it is not a team for which he would like to play, he has the right not to report and not play in the NHL for the balance of the season.

If Nabokov is claimed tomorrow, the only way he is likely to end up back in Detroit this season is if the new team opts to put him back on waivers, with the player's permission, and only Detroit puts in a waiver claim the second time around, or the only other clubs who put in a claim are above Detroit in the standings.

At least that is our story and we are sticking to it -- as long as it jibes with a complicated NHL waiver rule system.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=350469

 

[Phil The Thrill]

Bad news, he was claimed

Per TSN

In a move that is getting popular with NHL general managers, goaltender Evgeni Nabokov was claimed off waivers by the New York Islanders on Saturday after signing with the Detroit Red Wings on Thursday.

Despite signing with the Wings, Nabokov had to clear waivers to return to the NHL. The St. Louis Blues lost both Marek Svatos and Kyle Wellwood through the same procedure earlier this season. Svatos was claimed by Nashville and Wellwood was scooped up by San Jose.

The contract Nabokov signed with the Red Wings includes a no-move clause and states that he cannot be put back on waivers without his permission. Also, he is ineligible to play in American Hockey League this season due to league rules regarding free agents coming from Europe after Decemeber 15.

Nabokov became a free agent in December when he was released from his contract with Russian club SKA St. Petersburg. He was in the first year of a four-year deal that he signed in the off-season with the KHL club after 10 years with the San Jose Sharks.

In 22 games this season with St. Petersburg, Nabokov posted an 8-8-5 record with a 3.02 goals against average and a .888 save percentage.

The Kamenogorsk, Kazakhstan native was drafted in the ninth round, 219th overall, of the 1994 NHL Entry Draft by the Sharks.

In nine NHL seasons with San Jose, Nabokov appeared in 563 games, posting a 293-178-29-37 record with a 2.39 GAA and a .912 sv%. In his final season, the 35-year-old posted a 44-16-10 record with a 2.43 GAA and led the Sharks to the Western Conference final where they were eliminated by the Chicago Blackhawks.

 

[sheed]

Fuck the Islanders. He doesn't want to play for that shitty ass team. Hopefully they need to move him and put him on waivers so we claim him back.

 

[The Guid]

sources say he's not going to report

 

[sheed]

W00t W00t! You're right Baggs.

Reports surfacing that Nabokov is refusing to report to New York!

If Nabby refuses to report, Islanders can either suspend him or put him back on waivers.

Well, obviously he doesn't want to play there, so put him back on waivers so we can get him back... Idk why they claimed him anyways, they should know he won't want to play there. He signed with a contender, he had no intention on playing for a team at the bottom of the league.

 

[playmaker7]

Suspend his ass and keep him from the Red Wings...please

 

[sheed]

Suspend his ass and keep him from the Red Wings...please

Better not happen, lol. The Islanders aren't a contender, so I don't get why they would care if we got him.

 

[LeafsFan4Life]

Better not happen, lol. The Islanders aren't a contender, so I don't get why they would care if we got him.

It has nothing to do with them caring if Detroit got him. They needed a goalie so they picked him up.

 

[Phil The Thrill]

sources say he's not going to report

I had a good feeling this would happen. Why would he report. They suck and are a horrible hockey market.

 

[sheed]

It has nothing to do with them caring if Detroit got him. They needed a goalie so they picked him up.

I was talking about them suspending him....

 

[sheed]

Sources tell TSN that Evgeni Nabokov has decided to NOT report to NYI after being claimed on waivers today.

 

[WHO-DEY-BENGALS_18]

I had a feeling he wouldn't report to the Islanders.

 

[sheed]

The Islanders GM is going to make this situation so much more difficult though.

Islanders GM Garth Snow: "We claimed him off waivers, he has a SPC. My position is that he's a New York Islander and we look fwd to having him"

 

[LeafsFan4Life]

I was talking about them suspending him....

Even if they put him on back on waivers, Detroit still probably won't get him.

 

[Phil The Thrill]

I heard if he is put back on, Detroit is first in order or something????

 

[sheed]

Even if they put him on back on waivers, Detroit still probably won't get him.

Word is, if he gets put back on waivers we get first priority to get him since he was claimed from us.

Snow wants to hear back from Nabokov personally before making any more comments; has left voice mail and made tentative flight plans for him