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When Reggie Bush first came into the league he was being prasied for his college glory but soon enough we found out that he cant just pass on his past skills to take over the NFL.

AP is being praised for his smash mouth type running but i can guarentee in a few years hes going to be a broken down man. Im not saying 3-5 years, but if he continues to run like he is he might be injured during that time. AP is a beast no doubt but as a power back.

Darren Sproles i like because he does what some backs dont do anymore and thats avoid tackles instead of going through them and for his size, hes an idol for smaller fans.

Darren Sproles is on the top of my list but still the winner goes to AP at the moment unless he gets injured which what ive seen from him, might not be long from now.
How many years did Emmitt Smith run in between the tackles for?
 

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i have jacobs in my top 5 and im not crazy. but im thinking about it and my list is a bit off...

AP
LT
Turner
Deangelo Williams
Brandon Jacobs

Not a clue what i was thinking earlier, but i honestly think htat if Jacobs could stay healthy (missed i think 2 or 3 games last year) and was to take over 20 carries a game, hed make a strong push for 1500 yards, and probably still have at least as many TDs as he had last year.
 

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i have jacobs in my top 5 and im not crazy. but im thinking about it and my list is a bit off...

AP
LT
Turner
Deangelo Williams
Brandon Jacobs

Not a clue what i was thinking earlier, but i honestly think htat if Jacobs could stay healthy (missed i think 2 or 3 games last year) and was to take over 20 carries a game, hed make a strong push for 1500 yards, and probably still have at least as many TDs as he had last year.
The Giants have needed 2 other change of pace backs in order for Jacobs to be effective. Theres none of this "Earth, Wind and Fire" crap going on in Minnesota, San Diego or Atlanta.
 

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Emmitt Smith was a both a power back and a elusive back. When he had blockers he let them make the hole for him but if he had to run through a guy he would.

AP is more of a non-patience back. He doesnt let the hole open to much but instead makes his own most of the time. Dont get me wrong i respect him for his power but hes going to have to watch out.
 

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Emmitt Smith was a both a power back and a elusive back. When he had blockers he let them make the hole for him but if he had to run through a guy he would.

AP is more of a non-patience back. He doesnt let the hole open to much but instead makes his own most of the time. Dont get me wrong i respect him for his power but hes going to have to watch out.
I think you need to watch the Vikings more in 2009 then b/c you couldn't be more wrong. There is no such thing as "creating your own hole" in today's game...not with the types of d-lines teams have.
 

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Your right so your telling me AP is not as good if he would go to a bad line is that right. Cause i always thought that LT would never be good if he went to a line that couldnt block.
 

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The Giants have needed 2 other change of pace backs in order for Jacobs to be effective. Theres none of this "Earth, Wind and Fire" crap going on in Minnesota, San Diego or Atlanta.
Which is why I put him at number 5.

But its not like he was never ineffective without any other backs, because he was never given the chance.

Before he got the starting job he was a short-yardage guy for Tiki. His first full season I think he had about 11 games started due to injury and still accumulated over 1k yards, but only had 4 TDs.
2008 he plays just 13 games, gets 1k yards, and 15 TDs. I honestly think that if he had to get the job all on his own, and stayed healthy for a full 16 game season, hed easily get 1300 yards and might have a chance for 15-20 TDs. Thats just my opinion. I know, Im going on a limb with him as m fifth best HB in the league because hes never been given that opportunity to take it all on his own. In his first year with the full job, he alread had Ward behind him taking a good number of carries.

Its a crazy opinion on mine. I see the talent, I just need to see him play a full season and average at least 20 carries a game.
 

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Numbers never fully explain the importance Brandon Jacobs is to our team. Its like saying Ichiro isnt a good hitter because he doesnt hit for power and he doesnt walk as much as other great hitters. Jacobs wins us games in the 4th quarter or it might be the fact that we have the best offensive line in the league.
 

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Your right so your telling me AP is not as good if he would go to a bad line is that right. Cause i always thought that LT would never be good if he went to a line that couldnt block.
Wait...so 1 minute so saying AP creates his own holes...and now your arguing that he wouldn't be as good w/o a good Offensive line opening up holes for him. Which is it?

Realistically, Adrian Peterson doesn't run towards two, unblocked, defensive lineman and then just run straight through them. He's tough to tackle, likes to lower the shoulder and give the defender some but he's not creating his own holes. Peterson has great instincts, he is known for hitting the hole and then making the cutback once he's through.

We are also talking about Minnesota...where the left side of our line is gold and the right side isn't.
 

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Dude y u getting all pissed i said "your right". another thing is im not just talking about DL im talking about the other 8 men on the field. Also another reason you talk so highly of Him is because your a Vikings fan imo i think hes bound to fail everyones expectation.
 

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He's not the best back in the league RIGHT NOW when he's healthy. He's getting older and you can tell. He's starting to wear down and decline.
you might be right that he's not the best back anymore right now, but to put him behind guys like Deangelo Williams, MJD (Mighty Mouse) and his former backup Michael Turner, is just crazy. i mean, i understand they're all very capable backs that have put up big numbers, but they're deff not better backs than LT. plus, most of those backs haven't been starters for more than a year. people have to stop looking at the fantasy football boards, lol.
 

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wow, I'll be the first to admit I completely forgot about Steven Jackson. Ill bump the rest of my list down and put Jackson at #5.

And Ya FP, I agree Jacobs means a lot more than just numbers to our offense, but its hard t oexplain that to people without the numbers.

When a guy can come in and run as fast as he can, and hit defenders as hard as he can, he breaks down that defense, tires them more than most RBs would do, which is why the Earth, Wind and Fire succeeded. Not because of them, but because of his hard-hitting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pko8I-45R2Y...feature=related
 

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Dude y u getting all pissed i said "your right". another thing is im not just talking about DL im talking about the other 8 men on the field. Also another reason you talk so highly of Him is because your a Vikings fan imo i think hes bound to fail everyones expectation.
This is exactly why he ended up in Minnesota with the 7th pick in the 2007 draft.
 

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A overall selection doesnt mean anything look at David Carr and Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf. No point on what you just brought up.
 

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A overall selection doesnt mean anything look at David Carr and Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf. No point on what you just brought up.
The point is not many scouts were confident that Peterson would last as an every down NFL back. I think thus far he has exceeded expectation. You can doubt him all you want but I'll look for the obvious "I told you so" once he crosses the 1,500 yard mark this season.
 

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Wait...so 1 minute so saying AP creates his own holes...and now your arguing that he wouldn't be as good w/o a good Offensive line opening up holes for him. Which is it?

Realistically, Adrian Peterson doesn't run towards two, unblocked, defensive lineman and then just run straight through them. He's tough to tackle, likes to lower the shoulder and give the defender some but he's not creating his own holes. Peterson has great instincts, he is known for hitting the hole and then making the cutback once he's through.

We are also talking about Minnesota...where the left side of our line is gold and the right side isn't.
I just had to quote myself b/c even my ego needs to be fed sometimes.
 

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Of course you had to quote your own self you ego maniac jkjk. Ok dude im not hear to make enemies. I agree with some of what you say just not all alright. We can all just agree to disagree right.
 
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