2009 Free-Agency Thread

[RipCity32]

Product of his system? What kind of system is that?

 

[The Young One]

Its no point in debating this with you. Before Stan came around was hedo considered as good? When he was in San AN or Sactown did you think he was this good?

 

[elcheato]

VC is a better play, but he won't fit into the Magic better then Hedo did.. Vince Carter isn't going to want to dump the ball into the post, he'll want to take a jumper. Hedo fit that team perfectly, with his play making ability, he basically was the PG, and everything went around him in the clutch, he would create and make for himself. Vince will just be looking to make and my best bet is Howard will be complaining for lack of touches yet again this season.

 

[Mexi]

he's right rip

hedo was in orlando for 5 seasons
it was only until stan van gundy got there when he started playing very well

 

[The Young One]

VC is a better play, but he won't fit into the Magic better then Hedo did.. Vince Carter isn't going to want to dump the ball into the post, he'll want to take a jumper. Hedo fit that team perfectly, with his play making ability, he basically was the PG, and everything went around him in the clutch, he would create and make for himself. Vince will just be looking to make and my best bet is Howard will be complaining for lack of touches yet again this season.

Hedo was good but he didnt really flourish until nelson went out and that allowed him to be the playmaker of the offense. He wasnt as effective as when nelson was healthy.

 

[RipCity32]

Its no point in debating this with you. Before Stan came around was hedo considered as good? When he was in San AN or Sactown did you think he was this good?

You didn't answer my question.

Hedo has always been a solid player in his career.
Really broke out in 04-05, averaged 14 a game....off the bench mostly. Not under SVG either...?

 

[Mexi]

but under SVG he became borderline all-star

 

[The Young One]

You didn't answer my question.

Hedo has always been a solid player in his career.
Really broke out in 04-05, averaged 14 a game....off the bench mostly. Not under SVG either...?

Any magic fan will tell you that hedo flourished in SVG's system. His breakout season was 2007-2008. So people thought hedo was that great in 04-05 as he is now?

 

[elcheato]

Hedo was good but he didnt really flourish until nelson went out and that allowed him to be the playmaker of the offense. He wasnt as effective as when nelson was healthy.

His stats are essentially the same pre and post all-star game, his points per game are actually percentage points higher before the all-star game, which is around the time Jameer went down.

 

[Mexi]

lol
i love how rip is saying hedo's 14 was good but he loves to bash andrew bynum and his 14 a game

 

[RipCity32]

Any magic fan will tell you that hedo flourished in SVG's system. His breakout season was 2007-2008. So people thought hedo was that great in 04-05 as he is now?

Still didn't answer the question? What is SVG's system?
Utilizing the point-forward? I don't get it.
If so, he must of realized that Hedo could be a great player. So he began to use him more often in the offense.

 

[RipCity32]

lol
i love how rip is saying hedo's 14 was good but he loves to bash andrew bynum and his 14 a game

Bynum is ass though. And injury prone.

 

[The Young One]

Still didn't answer the question? What is SVG's system?
Utilizing the point-forward? I don't get it.
If so, he must of realized that Hedo could be a great player. So he began to use him more often in the offense.

He uses more of a fast break system that allows more freedom to his ball handlers. Hedo is a good ball handler and creates mismatches by his size and shooting ability and SVG realized that and put the ball in hedo's hands more.

 

[RipCity32]

Lol, and his numbers improving then means a coach finally utilized his talents?
I don't get your debate here man.. Wouldn't that mean he has great skills?

 

[The Young One]

Ugh its no point your not getting it. Im saying SVG utitilized hedo talents to a point where people overrate his abilities. He's a good player but he isnt as good as VC point blank. VC can go in the system and be just as effective as hedo.

 

[RipCity32]

You literally make no sense lol.
He utilized his talents to a point where he became overrated? If he used his talents to their fullest potential how could he be overrated? I'm not following you at all.

And if SVG's system is good for tall forwards to create mismatches or whatever you said, why would he be effective there? He is not a forward and has average height.

 

[The Young One]

He used his talents to the point where people overrate his value as a player. Your making it as if the magic losing hedo is a huge blow and it really isnt.


Hedo turkoglu is a small forward. Yes he has point forward abilities. But he is a Small forward. He is 6'10 that is not average Small Forward Height.

 

[Mexi]

he's overrated because of that contract, and he's going to a team that doesnt fit him IMO

he needs the ball, bosh needs the ball, andrea needs the ball

 

[RipCity32]

He used his talents to the point where people overrate his value as a player. Your making it as if the magic losing hedo is a huge blow and it really isnt.


Hedo turkoglu is a small forward. Yes he has point forward abilities. But he is a Small forward. He is 6'10 that is not average Small Forward Height.

It was a large blow though..

 

[The Young One]

It was a large blow though..

You dont believe VC can be as effective as hedo was?