Cavs Bulls and Sonics

[sheed]

Damn, IMO it looks like a nice deal for all of the teams. I want to see how Cleveland plays now, they should be an interesting team to watch.

 

[kdogg]

Yea, looks like this was a good trade for all the teams involved especially Cleveland

 

[Yankees2772]

Wait, I just remembered something...

The Sonics have had a FABULOUS trade history this year...

They didn't trade a 1st for Thomas...

They traded a 2nd round pick for Thomas and 2 1sts from the Suns.

They then traded Thomas now for other expirings and a 2009 1st.

They traded a 2nd round pick for 3 1sts and expirings.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

I think they are now the 3rd best team in the East now.

2nd, Cavs > Pistons just like last year's playoffs

 

[bulls12]

I don't exactly see how the Bulls get a good deal out of this, but I hope with Ben Wallace being gone that Aaron Gray gets more playing time.

 

[sheed]

2nd, Cavs > Pistons just like last year's playoffs

lol, yeah they picked up some decent guys, but do you really think Ben will do anything for them? No, he wont do crap, just as he did in Chicago. I mean come on, $60 Mil and hes getting 5 PPG, and 8 RPG? When the Pistons are the top of their game, no one can beat them, so I dont see how the Cavs would just by picking up Wallace, Smith, West and Szczerbs. Hughes and Wally are averaging identical numbers, so nothing will change there, and West and Jones are averaging almost identical numbers also. The only good Cleveland did was getting rid of Newble, hes trash, and picking up Smith. Joe Smith > Ben Wallace any day.

 

[bestkeptsecret13]

I don't exactly see how the Bulls get a good deal out of this, but I hope with Ben Wallace being gone that Aaron Gray gets more playing time.

How the hell do you figure we didn't get a good deal? I think we got the best out of this deal... Gooden is better than both Wallace and Smith and gives us a good low post scorer and rebounder. Him and Kirk are also familiar from their days at Kansas. Larry Hughes, before going to Cleveland, was one of the best (top 10) SG in the league. With a change of scenery, I think he can improve and hopefully get back on a solid level. It's not like if he doesn't do good we are gonna suck either (not that we don't already suck), but we still have Duhon, Kirk, Gordon and Sefolosha at the guard positions. Cedric Simmons is also a former lottery pick, so I wouldn't give up on him just yet.

 

[bulls12]

How the hell do you figure we didn't get a good deal? I think we got the best out of this deal... Gooden is better than both Wallace and Smith and gives us a good low post scorer and rebounder. Him and Kirk are also familiar from their days at Kansas. Larry Hughes, before going to Cleveland, was one of the best (top 10) SG in the league. With a change of scenery, I think he can improve and hopefully get back on a solid level. It's not like if he doesn't do good we are gonna suck either (not that we don't already suck), but we still have Duhon, Kirk, Gordon and Sefolosha at the guard positions. Cedric Simmons is also a former lottery pick, so I wouldn't give up on him just yet.

I don't know what it is, but I guess I'm just not sure about the inside scoring game still. I am wondering whether or not Gooden would be able to significantly help out the Bulls.

I really do hope that Aaron Gray earns more PT though.

 

[bestkeptsecret13]

I can see Noah starting now (at center) and Gray backing him up, which is a good thing. They both deserve to see more minutes. I think this will be the lineup from now on -

C - Joakim Noah
PF - Drew Gooden
SF - Luol Deng
SG - Larry Hughes
PG - Kirk Hinrich

SG - Ben Gordon
SF - Andres Nocioni
PG - Chris Duhon
SG - Thabo Sefolosha
PF - Tyrus Thomas
C - Aaron Gray
PF - Cedric Simmons

We really have a logjam at the guard positions.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

C - Zydrunas Ilgauskas
PF - Ben Wallace
SF - LeBron James
SG - Wally Szczerbiak
PG - Daniel Gibson

PG - Delonte West
C - Anderson Varejao
PF - Joe Smith
SG - Sasha Pavlovic
SG - Devin Brown
SG - Shannon Brown
PG - Damon Jones
PF - Dwayne Jones
PG - Eric Snow

That is the best supporting cast LeBron has ever had. I'd believe that the Pistons aren't better than last year, obviously this team tops the Cavs. If they can click chemistry-wise they can challenge the Celtics. You're not better than them until you beat them in a playoff series, which I'd give the edge to Cleveland in simply because of LeBron...

 

[bulls12]

I can see Noah starting now (at center) and Gray backing him up, which is a good thing. They both deserve to see more minutes. I think this will be the lineup from now on -

C - Joakim Noah
PF - Drew Gooden
SF - Luol Deng
SG - Larry Hughes
PG - Kirk Hinrich

SG - Ben Gordon
SF - Andres Nocioni
PG - Chris Duhon
SG - Thabo Sefolosha
PF - Tyrus Thomas
C - Aaron Gray
PF - Cedric Simmons

We really have a logjam at the guard positions.

Yeah I am sick of everyone saying that Noah sucks. he needs more of a chance to prove how good he is. Why wouldn't Gordon start, and wouldn't he basically split equal minutes with Hughes at SG?

They could eventually trade Sefolosha to a team that needs him, although I love him playing in Chicago.

 

[bestkeptsecret13]

Gordon wasn't starting before Hughes got here, so I don't see why they'd put him in the starting lineup now... Heck, they might bring Gordon and Hughes off the bench and continue to start Duhon or Sefolosha. With all the injuries we've had, it's hard to say how things are going to look. Gordon might fake some more injuries and just sit out the rest of the year, I don't know.

As far as trading Sefolosha goes, I'd really hate to see that happen. He's going to be pretty good, and has proved lately that he can play. If Gordon does leave during the off-season and if Hughes is traded (I read Paxson didn't even want him in the trade, he just wanted Gooden + fillers), then Sefolosha would become our new starting 2 guard.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Gordon never starts.

And Noah sucks. He tries hard and somewhat makes up for it, but he's still an awful player...

 

[bestkeptsecret13]

Gordon never starts.

And Noah sucks. He tries hard and somewhat makes up for it, but he's still an awful player...

5 points and 5 boards in 15 MPG isn't that bad, especially considering he doesn't really know when he's ever gonna play (he can play 3 games in a row, then not see the floor for 5).

 

[Pugz]

C - Zydrunas Ilgauskas
PF - Ben Wallace
SF - LeBron James
SG - Wally Szczerbiak
PG - Delonte West

PG - Daniel Gibson
C - Anderson Varejao
PF - Joe Smith
SG - Sasha Pavlovic
SG - Devin Brown
PG - Damon Jones
PF - Dwayne Jones
PG - Eric Snow

That is the best supporting cast LeBron has ever had. I'd believe that the Pistons aren't better than last year, obviously this team tops the Cavs. If they can click chemistry-wise they can challenge the Celtics. You're not better than them until you beat them in a playoff series, which I'd give the edge to Cleveland in simply because of LeBron...

Yea there better,yea this is Brons best team...But damn could you please got off LeBrons nuts and quit hating on the Pistons...

They beat us yea but LeBron himself said we quit and that are better than them. You just hate the Pistons and never give them any credit.

Oh I fixed there lineuo too.

 

[bulls12]

Didn't we get Shannon Brown too?

 

[bestkeptsecret13]

Didn't we get Shannon Brown too?

Yeah, but with 5 guards ahead of him (Hinrich, Hughes, Gordon, Sefolosha, Duhon), I don't see him making the active roster.

 

[bulls12]

I love our guards, it just sucks that not all of them could play 30+ mins a game.

 

[DJT]

wtf!?!?!? What is this season coming to??? Giving your good players for nobodys!?!?!

 

[bulls12]

wtf!?!?!? What is this season coming to??? Giving your good players for nobodys!?!?!

I'm guessing you are referring to the Sonics lol.