Who Will Win the NFC South?

[Teagz]

Atlanta, Carolina, New Orleans, or Tampa Bay?

 

[Fuhgeddaboudit]

Think the Saints will keep it close
 
but Atlanta Falcons 

 

[jonathanlambert33]

 

[Teagz]

Falcons
Bucs
Saints
Panthers
 
I could see any of the first 3 take it though. Definitely one of the more competitive divisions.

 

[bosoxlover12]

No b2b winner of the NFC South
 
Saints

 

[RunRickyRun]

ATL 12-4
Bucs 10-6
Saints 9-7
Panthers 7-9
 
Atlanta will be about as good as last season, maybe better with Jackson now running the ball.  I like the Bucs with Revis and people continue to overrate the Saints every season.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

continue?

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Saints
Falcons
Buccaneers
Panthers

 

[bosoxlover12]

I can't see the Saints being overrated as long as they have Drew Brees at QB

 

[jonathanlambert33]

And an improved roster and scheme.

And that Sean Payton guy.

 

[Falcons11497]

No back to back winners of the NFC South yet, but I can't see the Falcons not winning it again. They are the most well put together team in the division as it stands currently. Saints defense is atrocious (should be improved this year with new schemes, but not enough to give them the division title), Josh Freeman is very inconsistent so there's no telling how the Bucs will perform, and the Panthers can't seem to put up much of a fight anywhere outside of playing against NFC South rivals.
 
 
Falcons
Saints
Bucs, although they could surprise people and move either up or down
Panthers

 

[RunRickyRun]

So Sean Payton is gonna strap on a helmet, take the field, and improve upon last season's record? 
 
Oft-injured Colston and Devery are the only established WR's on the roster, log-jammed at the RB position, a Rob Ryan defense, a brutal schedule, and the only draft pick I see making an immediate impact is Vaccaro.  
 
Not seeing how they're better than last season.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

So Sean Payton is gonna strap on a helmet, take the field, and improve upon last season's record? 
 
Oft-injured Colston and Devery are the only established WR's on the roster, log-jammed at the RB position, a Rob Ryan defense, a brutal schedule, and the only draft pick I see making an immediate impact is Vaccaro.  
 
Not seeing how they're better than last season.

 
You really don't think having Sean Payton back will help improve the team?  You vastly underrate the impact coaches have on their teams.
 
Not to be rude, but you clearly don't know much about the Saints. 
 
Marques Colston has played in 61 of a possible 64 games over the past four seasons.  I'd say that's very healthy.
 
Devery Henderson was let go by the team, and barely had any role last season.  Lance Moore?  Jimmy Graham?  Ben Watson?  Darren Sproles?  All established pass catchers in the league.  Even Pierre Thomas is a great pass catcher out of the backfield.  We have three young WR's that will surely make an impact in Joe Morgan, Nick Toon, and Kenny Stills.  Morgan himself took Devery's role last season.
 
We have Mark Ingram, Pierre Thomas, and Darren Sproles at running back, all solid backs, but it isn't a log jam.  Maybe if they were all the same type of back it would be, but they aren't.  Ingram is the bruiser inside the tackles back, Thomas is the do it all back, and Sproles is the pass catching back who can take carries outside of the tackles.  Even if we did have a log jam I don't really understand how that's a bad thing.
 
Rob Ryan has historically put solid defenses on the field.  Maybe not great defenses all that often, but the Saints don't need a great defense with our offense.  Plus the biggest thing is the scheme.  We spent three or four years building towards an aggressive man defense with Gregg Williams, then last season switched to the exact opposite defense.  A read and react defense that used mostly zone coverage.  That was a horrible fit for our personnel, especially the secondary which were all man to man corners.  Now we have nearly the exact same defense as the Gregg Williams defense returning.  In his last season here we were 4th in yards per game and 7th in points per game, both great numbers, especially for the offense we put out there.  People expect the worst defense in NFL history to be on the field again, but now that we have a scheme that fits the personnel we will be fine.

 

[RunRickyRun]

 
You really don't think having Sean Payton back will help improve the team?  You vastly underrate the impact coaches have on their teams.
 
Not to be rude, but you clearly don't know much about the Saints. 
 
Marques Colston has played in 61 of a possible 64 games over the past four seasons.  I'd say that's very healthy.
 
Devery Henderson was let go by the team, and barely had any role last season.  Lance Moore?  Jimmy Graham?  Ben Watson?  Darren Sproles?  All established pass catchers in the league.  Even Pierre Thomas is a great pass catcher out of the backfield.  We have three young WR's that will surely make an impact in Joe Morgan, Nick Toon, and Kenny Stills.  Morgan himself took Devery's role last season.
 
We have Mark Ingram, Pierre Thomas, and Darren Sproles at running back, all solid backs, but it isn't a log jam.  Maybe if they were all the same type of back it would be, but they aren't.  Ingram is the bruiser inside the tackles back, Thomas is the do it all back, and Sproles is the pass catching back who can take carries outside of the tackles.  Even if we did have a log jam I don't really understand how that's a bad thing.
 
Rob Ryan has historically put solid defenses on the field.  Maybe not great defenses all that often, but the Saints don't need a great defense with our offense.  Plus the biggest thing is the scheme.  We spent three or four years building towards an aggressive man defense with Gregg Williams, then last season switched to the exact opposite defense.  A read and react defense that used mostly zone coverage.  That was a horrible fit for our personnel, especially the secondary which were all man to man corners.  Now we have nearly the exact same defense as the Gregg Williams defense returning.  In his last season here we were 4th in yards per game and 7th in points per game, both great numbers, especially for the offense we put out there.  People expect the worst defense in NFL history to be on the field again, but now that we have a scheme that fits the personnel we will be fine.

Yeah, yeah, Sean Payton is this great coach...we know.  But remember all that crap last year about Sean building such a strong program that the Saints wouldn't suffer as much in his absence??  The point is the Saints aren't the team they were when they won the Super Bowl, nor will they be.  It's a regression and it should've been expected.
 
Some good athletes on the offensive side of the ball but was it good enough last season or the season before?  When was the last time Pierre Thomas or Mark Ingram were reliable, if ever?  The most reliable RB is Sproles and he's a specialty guy who's hit or miss on Sunday.  If they can't get him the ball on underneath passing routes then he's worthless to the offense.  
 
For a long time Rob Ryan was said to be one of the biggest problems with the Oakland Raiders.  New coaches would get hired but Al wouldn't let anybody fire Rob.  Well once Al finally agreed to let him go he's bounced around.  If Rob was such a great coordinator then he'd have been head coach at least once by now and he certainly wouldn't be on his 3rd of 4th team in 6 years. 

 

[jonathanlambert33]

In the last season with Sean Payton they fielded the best team they've had since the Super Bowl, maybe even better.  But one poor season without their head coach and their leader means they're regressing?
 
If you say so...

 

[RunRickyRun]

In the last season with Sean Payton they fielded the best team they've had since the Super Bowl, maybe even better.  But one poor season without their head coach and their leader means they're regressing?
 
If you say so...

 
You aren't going to agree with me because you're a fan either way

 

[wilmyers]

^ Shut up Jimmy
 
IAS the Bucs will be the darkhorse, big surprise team in all of the NFL 

  
 
Dougie Martin will run, Josh is good every other season, and Revis Island.........c'mon now

 

[Falcons11497]

I'd take all three other NFC South QBs over Josh Freeman. Yes, even Cam Newton

 

[RunRickyRun]

^ Shut up Jimmy
 
IAS the Bucs will be the darkhorse, big surprise team in all of the NFL 

  
 
Dougie Martin will run, Josh is good every other season, and Revis Island.........c'mon now

 
There's college teams that could beat Tampa

 

[BwareDWare94]

 
There's college teams that could beat Tampa

 
I assume you're being sarcastic...
 
But if not, go home. You clearly don't know football.