Simmons or Ingram?

[cavsfan817]

 
So, who do the Suns take at 4?

Most mocks that I've seen have Jaylen Brown out of cal

 

[Iceman]

Most mocks that I've seen have Jaylen Brown out of cal

 
Also heard that there is a good chance they will take the guy out of Croatia 

 

[cavsfan817]

 
Also heard that there is a good chance they will take the guy out of Croatia 

 
If he falls that will be the logical pick. I think the Celtics (or whoever will eventually pick at #3) will be hard-pressed to pass on him, but that's just me personally.

 

[bosoxlover12]

He can't score though. Bender can provide some shot blocking due to his height, and is a good perimeter defender, and thats where his value is. He can hit standing threes, but cannot create his own shot though.
 
 
He's a Mirotic//Olynyk//Saric type of player. Solid, but not someone who you can't pass on at #3 lol

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Comparing Bender to Olynyk is so offensive

 

[Stray32]

I've heard that but I don't think it's really true. The guy seemed mentally weak to me, when things were good he was good. When things got tough he started pouting, playing carelessly, just being lazy, that sort of thing.

Maybe I'm wrong and this is another Drummond situation.

Another reason I think the 76ers will realize Ingram makes much more sense for them. Overall I'd still go Simmons but it's really close and for the 76ers I definitely think Ingram makes more sense as the #1 pick
 

His godfather was on staff, that's the only reason

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Comparing Bender to Olynyk is so offensive

Yeah I was gonna respond to that haha cuz I watched a lot of scouting on Bender last night but figured I'd wait for a thread that's actually about him. For starters he's actually not a shot-blocker despite his size, for an NBA comparison (defensively) look at Steven Adams, offensively he's extremely different from Olynyk as well

 

[bosoxlover12]

How? Bender's worst case scenario, is comparable to Olynyk. 
 
 
saying bender is like shaq, is stupid. comparing him to iverson, is stupid. olynyk makes sense as a floor.
 
 
plus olynyk isn't that far off from mirotic, either. idk why you didnt mention that

 

[BwareDWare94]

Ingram came out too early. One or two more years under coach K and he could have become a can't miss prospect. He's got a lot of potential but to go to a shitty team is not the way to reach it.

 

[elcheato]

When you're guaranteed to go top 2, you'd have to be insane to go back to college. Best case scenario: you stay put draft position wise, any other scenario: you drop

 

[Pugz]

its better financially to come out when stock is high. the older you are, the less desirable you are because if the stigma that you wont get much better. he did the right thing.

 

[Hurricane Season]

If you're a top pick, you're almost always going to a shitty team anyway.

 

[bosoxlover12]

Plus I doubt Ingram will be upset playing for the Lakers lol

 

[Mexi]

Colangelo--USA---Coach K----Duke-----ingram a lock

 

[buzzy]

Brett Brown---Australia---knowing Simmons since birth---Simmons a lock

 

[elcheato]

Of course I don't wash the towel, the towel washes me.

 

[bosoxlover12]

damn buzzy i was gonna say that lol

Brown coached up Simmons' dad

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Ingram came out too early. One or two more years under coach K and he could have become a can't miss prospect. He's got a lot of potential but to go to a shitty team is not the way to reach it.

This is idiotic. Why wouldn't he go to a shitty team in a year or two? Most teams that win the lottery were shitty. He's about to be a top 2 pick. Are you saying he should've gone back and intentionally tanked his draft stock?

 

[BwareDWare94]

No, I'm saying go back and refine himself a bit more so he's a lock to be great when he goes into a sloppy situation

 

[buzzy]

Why would he refine better in college than the NBA? Working with people who are actually interested in making him better.

 

[bosoxlover12]

I will say that Coach K is a far better coach than Brown or Walton for sure
 
it would be idiotic for him to not declare though. best case scenario is he's a unanimous #1 overall pick. worst case is a career-ending injury in college and never playing in the nba -- on the likes of Embiid and Oden
 
 
Knowing how he's a Top 3 lock, with like a 99.9% chance of being a Top 2 lock, it would literally be stupid af to not declare.