Official Wrestling Talk Thread

[Senators26]

Dolph would have to be heel. Could be great

 

[CameronCrazy06]

I don't know if they'll turn him right away, but maybe after the match. Like I said though, this is at BEST the fourth best match on the SS card, and that might be a stretch. Not good for Smackdown.

 

[buzzy]

I don't know if they'll turn him right away, but maybe after the match. Like I said though, this is at BEST the fourth best match on the SS card, and that might be a stretch. Not good for Smackdown.

I mean, not really because of Ziggler. Dolph puts on good matches, Dean has the most generic moveset on the roster.

 

[HitmanCapone]

Dolph in a title match? Didn't take long for smackdown to lose me

What?  Dolph has been one of the best workers for a while now.  Why the shade?

 

[elcheato]

Because he is one of the least charasmatic and worst talkers I have ever seen reach the level he has. He doesn't entertain me with his HBK-wannabe overselling, either.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

What?  Dolph has been one of the best workers for a while now.  Why the shade?

He just lost a feud to Baron Corbin and has been in pre show/mid card he'll ever since he won the SS match for team Cena in 2014. It just doesn't make much sense he had 0 momentum

 

[HitmanCapone]

He just lost a feud to Baron Corbin and has been in pre show/mid card he'll ever since he won the SS match for team Cena in 2014. It just doesn't make much sense he had 0 momentum

This I can understand but it's supposed to be a new era where the actual in ring work matters.  Hopefully they will actually book him right and not just bury him time after time

 

[HitmanCapone]

Because he is one of the least charasmatic and worst talkers I have ever seen reach the level he has. He doesn't entertain me with his HBK-wannabe overselling, either.

I don't even know what to say if you don't like watching good wrestling matches.  Are you one of those people that fast forward the matches and only watch the promos?

 

[CameronCrazy06]

This I can understand but it's supposed to be a new era where the actual in ring work matters.  Hopefully they will actually book him right and not just bury him time after time

So you're telling me that Ambrose vs Ziggler is a worthy match for the top title in the company at the second biggest PPV of the year? I just don't see it. It's a piss break.

Regarding his ring work, Ziggler can obviously go, but like Dan said recently he's turned into a HBK wannabe. When's the last time he was in a great match?

 

[HitmanCapone]

So you're telling me that Ambrose vs Ziggler is a worthy match for the top title in the company at the second biggest PPV of the year? I just don't see it. It's a piss break.

Regarding his ring work, Ziggler can obviously go, but like Dan said recently he's turned into a HBK wannabe. When's the last time he was in a great match?

I do.  I think Ziggler puts on great matches damn near every time he goes out there.  I do agree he has a HBK feel to him but is not a bad thing at all and not really sure why you guys are knocking him for it either.
 
Are you okay with Balor/Rollins?  Why is Balor even in the title pic already?  He just left NXT and all of KO/Cesaro/Zayn deserved that match ahead of him, maybe I missed the hate on that match since I didn't read back far enough but if you or anyone else is okay with that match than why not a Ziggler/Ambrose match?  Honestly I hate Ambrose being champ and I can probably list 3 guys that deserve the title more than him. (Wyatt/AJ Styles/Ziggler)  I think Ambrose is just kind of a new Cena tbh.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Balor has more name value than both Ambrose and Ziggler. Sure he just got called up, but he was the #5 overall draft pick for a reason. He held the NXT belt for a good while and obviously he had a lot of credibility from his pre-WWE days. I don't think the comparison is the same.

Balor might be the biggest NXT call up yet and the precedent has been set for these NXT guys to come in and make an immediate impact (see Kevin Owens). Plus I think there's an obvious elephant in the room regarding Reigns and I highly doubt Balor goes over there if not for whatever punishment Roman is getting

Anyways, regarding Ziggler, you're telling me these matches in his feuds with Corbin and Breeze have been entertaining? You're obviously entitled to your opinion, but both those feuds grew stale almost the second they started, and it's not entirely booking's fault. Dolph has grown entirely bland as a face. He needs a heel turn or at least a gimmick change.

 

[HitmanCapone]

Balor has more name value than both Ambrose and Ziggler. Sure he just got called up, but he was the #5 overall draft pick for a reason. He held the NXT belt for a good while and obviously he had a lot of credibility from his pre-WWE days. I don't think the comparison is the same.

Balor might be the biggest NXT call up yet and the precedent has been set for these NXT guys to come in and make an immediate impact (see Kevin Owens). Plus I think there's an obvious elephant in the room regarding Reigns and I highly doubt Balor goes over there if not for whatever punishment Roman is getting

Anyways, regarding Ziggler, you're telling me these matches in his feuds with Corbin and Breeze have been entertaining? You're obviously entitled to your opinion, but both those feuds grew stale almost the second they started, and it's not entirely booking's fault. Dolph has grown entirely bland as a face. He needs a heel turn or at least a gimmick change.

Let me start off by saying I absolutely love Balor's work and I agree with most of what you're saying.  I just happen to think it's a similar situation.
 
The matches with Breeze & Corbin weren't some of his best but they weren't bad matches either and I'm sure you can pick out any wrestler and have a string of unentertaining/bland feuds.(I'm also an avid Breeze hater and feel that he and Fandango should be nothing more than a comedy act) I do agree that Ziggler definitely needs to make the switch to heel though.  I however am also in the group of believing that better booking needs to happen but that can be said for almost every wrestler on the roster.
 
Switching the topic up here but can we talk about the crock of shit that Eva Marie is and if we're complaining about something can it please start with the red head who can't wrestle even a little bit?

 

[CameronCrazy06]

I really don't mind it. She obviously can't wrestle but she's the only heel diva on the roster who gets heat. Listen to the crowd when she comes out. I hear a lot of people call her the female Roman, but the difference is WWE saw the heat she was getting in NXT and made her heel instead of fighting it and just hoping for better reactions.

I think they should throw her in a feud with Becky and see where it goes.

 

[HitmanCapone]

I really don't mind it. She obviously can't wrestle but she's the only heel diva on the roster who gets heat. Listen to the crowd when she comes out. I hear a lot of people call her the female Roman, but the difference is WWE saw the heat she was getting in NXT and made her heel instead of fighting it and just hoping for better reactions.

I think they should throw her in a feud with Becky and see where it goes.

I honestly think that would be brutal she is such a horrible performer.  Yes she gets heat but she gets it because she honestly just can't wrestle there is no good reason for bringing her up besides her being eye candy atleast IMO

 

[Pugz]

dolph got the title match?!

 

[Big Bid'Ness]

dolph got the title match?!

 
Yep

 

[elcheato]

I don't even know what to say if you don't like watching good wrestling matches.  Are you one of those people that fast forward the matches and only watch the promos?

I like watching good matches, but I like guys who can do more than work a good match. Its great if someone can work a good match, but if he can't sell me on the match/story and hype it up, then what's the point?

 

[CameronCrazy06]

I honestly think that would be brutal she is such a horrible performer.  Yes she gets heat but she gets it because she honestly just can't wrestle there is no good reason for bringing her up besides her being eye candy atleast IMO

She's been down in NXT for a long time now. I'm fine with her getting a chance. It's not for the belt or anything plus Becky can carry her some

 

[elcheato]

Giving Smakdown a shot here because I really want to see the debut of Alexa and some other people. We'll see how this goes sans the Ziggler nonsense.
 
My boy Daniel Bryan running the show helps. 

 

[elcheato]

Eva Marie's entrance is fucking hilarious 
 
edit: The Miz is gonna interview himself!