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just a little heel vs heel action
 

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If anything he's probably a tweener status but the crowd was going crazy for him at the end of Raw.

I'm still upset the Ascension got buried. Vince is a fucking dunce. Needs to let Hunter run the company
 

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brock is a heel. what we seen was the reaction of the most hated heel since punk and maybe one of the lost hated heels in the last decade. seth IS that good.

i totally agree with you. vince is killing his own product.
 

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The Ascension being "buried" on commentary was clearly to build up to last night (which was a segment the crowd loved, and most fans), and they're obviously going to beat the New Age Outlaws at the rumble. Calm down 
 

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Going to be sad when Brock leaves after Wrestlemania. He was awesome last night
 
Also, JBL claiming that jumbo tron had a picture of Sting on it and not actually Sting, lmao. I was dying
 
As Pugz said before, I don't know who is winning the title, I don't know who is winning the rumble. It's sweet. Cant wait
 

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elcheato said:
The Ascension being "buried" on commentary was clearly to build up to last night (which was a segment the crowd loved, and most fans), and they're obviously going to beat the New Age Outlaws at the rumble. Calm down 
You must not have picked up on the recent theme of call ups getting buried. The only recent call up that hasn't been buried is Paige and that's because they needed someone to take the belt from AJ when she went away for awhile.

You really should check NXT. it's a way better product and it proves what HHH can do when given control. Vince needs to step aside.

This wasn't even the ascension's gimmick in next at all btw, this was Vince's idea. I fully understand that the JBL burying was leading up to this... But why lead up to this?

I agree that the unpredictability of this PPV is cool. I just have that bad feeling that Cena wins but I hope I'm wrong.
 

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I've seen some NXT. I think its good but they have much less pressure, they're not live and naturally have more freedom. They don't have to advertise, appeal to multiple demographics, etc... They're wrestling heavy, which works for some people but I like the talkers, which is why I don't like the Ascension.

The "burying" is the best thing for them. This will get them noticed much more quickly then squashing and beating irrelevant tag teams in a weak division. Putting them against legends, it's a great idea if they're behind them
 

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Big Bid said:
A certain Tag team might be returning sunday at the Rumble
are they the return twitter account
 

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elcheato said:
I've seen some NXT. I think its good but they have much less pressure, they're not live and naturally have more freedom. They don't have to advertise, appeal to multiple demographics, etc... They're wrestling heavy, which works for some people but I like the talkers, which is why I don't like the Ascension.

The "burying" is the best thing for them. This will get them noticed much more quickly then squashing and beating irrelevant tag teams in a weak division. Putting them against legends, it's a great idea if they're behind them
Them beating "locals" was burying them in my opinion too. They really have done nothing to help them since they came up. If I was booking, I would've had them interrupt the Uso/Mizdow tag team title match that night, OR if you REALLY had to give the Uso's the belt, attack the Uso's during their speech after. Would've established them as heels and a threat to the belt right away.

Rather, they had a bland debut vs. Mizdow where we couldn't tell if they were face or heel, and they cut a few promos about how they're better than old tag teams and beat "locals".
 

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I don't like thrusting unknowns into the title scene immediately unless they're obvious stars. You put them in that position when people start to care. You don't put them there to make people care. Despite me not liking them, feuding with legends will help them a ton
 

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It will help them a ton if they go over. I don't put it past WWE to have NAO win this Sunday at all.
 

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It would show a lack of faith in them for sure, which I wouldn't blame them. I don't think they're interesting, but they're definitely going over.
 

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elcheato said:
It would show a lack of faith in them for sure, which I wouldn't blame them. I don't think they're interesting, but they're definitely going over.
For the record, people said Heath Slater was being elevated when he was getting jobbed out to all the legends too, and look how that ended up.
 

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Those were some really stupid people then.
 

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