Matt Ryan Signs $103.75/5 Contract Extension

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BlkFalc. said:
The way I see it is, anything Ryan does right gets discredited by the media/idiots who just scream "look at all the weapons he's surrounded by." Then when something goes wrong all the blame falls solely on Ryan.
 
Which is funny because Ryan only gave up 7 of Green Bay's 48 points. I do blame him for the NYG loss, though. And he was a rookie facing a legend against Arizona.

Truthfully, I think Ryan's very good, but I discredit him a bit because of how good the media seems to think he is, like he's the second coming. 
 

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Brady wasn't necessarily elite right off the bat. Big Ben SUCKED in his first super bowl. And Flacco is a good QB. Neither QB in last years Super Bowl is elite. Flacco might become elite with a different OC, but we don't know for sure yet, and Kaepernick probably won't be an elite QB. Also, the last playoff game Romo was in, his defense gave up 34 points after shutting the Eagles down for two weeks in a row. Completely unacceptable. Ryan has sucked in the playoffs until this past season. We're not being fair to these two players. The quarterback position gets all of the credit for a job done by 22 (make it 30-35 with special teams) men. It's absurd. Rodgers won his Super Bowl because the Green Bay defense was fantastic (and has since fallen off the map, which is why the Pack have struggled in the playoffs since). Eli's two Super Bowl wins have come with elite defenses. Big Ben's Steeler defense held the Cardinals in check for most of the game. Adam Viniateri won what, 2 of the 3 Super Bowls for New England? 

Different things have been the deciding factor in most Super Bowls in recent years. A good quarterback is as good as the pieces around him, and Brady is the only exception to that.
 
Lol you are making it seem like I'm saying that if you have an elite qb you can automatically win a ring. I'm not. But at the end of the day, like I said, the most important player on the field is the one who touches the ball every play. 
 
I like how you are using defense and special teams as examples; as if they are one position or something. How can the most important position on the field be "over valued"? It's the most fucking important position. It's not like you can honestly say that there is another position that is more important. You're comparing an entire defense to one position... that doesn't even make sense. 
 

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Please tell me another player who made won the Super Bowl 3 times in his first 4 years as a starter, and then you can say Brady wasn't elite right off the bat
 

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bosoxlover12 said:
Please tell me another player who made won the Super Bowl 3 times in his first 4 years as a starter, and then you can say Brady wasn't elite right off the bat
 
I was referring to his first Super Bowl Victory. Obviously after 2-3 he had set the new standard. 
 

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Lol you are making it seem like I'm saying that if you have an elite qb you can automatically win a ring. I'm not. But at the end of the day, like I said, the most important player on the field is the one who touches the ball every play. 
 
I like how you are using defense and special teams as examples; as if they are one position or something. How can the most important position on the field be "over valued"? It's the most fucking important position. It's not like you can honestly say that there is another position that is more important. You're comparing an entire defense to one position... that doesn't even make sense. 
 
I was referring to the defense as 11 individuals, as the other offensive players as 10 individuals, special teams as essential 12 because I doubt long snappers run on kickoffs. With nearly 30-35 other men in the fold, I find it absurd how much QBs are getting paid these days. It might be the most important player on the offensive side of the ball, but these guys aren't worth what they're getting paid.
 

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to win a superbowl you need an elite leader at the most important position, qb. idk if its been said but you dont need to have a qb with an elite arm, they just need elite decision making..
 

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Tom Brady's never really had the strongest arm, at all. He could loft the ball, but he couldn't throw those bullets that Rodgers throws 40 yards down the field.
 
But he is one of the two smartest QBs in this generation
 

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