Kyrie Irving traded to Boston

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The incredible amount of disrespect you're showing Isaiah Thomas is fucking disgraceful.
 
The guy was the 3rd best offensive player in basketball. He carried the team to a fucking 1 seed and an ECF berth. Sure he's bad defensively, but lets not act like we're equally shitting on Westbrook, Harden, Kyrie, Curry, etc who are all negative defenders as well. IT is still a positive on the court, even with his defensive atrocities.
 
The Cavs will not get a better player in return for Kyrie than Isaiah Thomas. That's a goddamn, absolute fact. If they can get Crowder (becomes at worst a very good 7th man for the Cavs) to add to their rotation, they are a better team than they were last year in terms of depth.
 

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Big Poppa said:
Bosox u as stingy as god damn ainge, i cant even take u right now


You wouldnt move that nets pick for a 25 kyrie irving???! STOP
You're seemingly awful with valuing items
 
Why would boston move a Top 5 pick in a loaded draft when we don't have to. Why include the BKN 1st if you can get Kyrie without it? Boston has the leverage in these trade negotiations, not the Cavs. I'd be honestly shocked if Koby can land Jaylen/Jayson/BKN 18/LAL 18. Anything else (like Zizic apparently) is very fair game
 

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bosoxlover12 said:
You're seemingly awful with valuing items
 
Why would boston move a Top 5 pick in a loaded draft when we don't have to. Why include the BKN 1st if you can get Kyrie without it? Boston has the leverage in these trade negotiations, not the Cavs. I'd be honestly shocked if Koby can land Jaylen/Jayson/BKN 18/LAL 18. Anything else (like Zizic apparently) is very fair game
Obviously they dont have to move it, but youre replacing kyrie a 25 year old with IT, thats a no brainer.

All im sayibg is that IT crowder clippers pick is a rape

Cavs settling big time by not getting jaylen taytum or nets 2018 considering their future is up in the air and everyone could dip
 

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i wouldnt include too many picks. imo, this doesnt even make the celtics that much better. it just settles the locker room a little more since you know kyrie will be there and dont need to worry about a contract. its better for the cavs because they get a little bit of depth but then you have to worry about that incoming max for IT.
 

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although if push comes to shove, id move the lakers pick if i really had to
 

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Father Pugzo said:
i wouldnt include too many picks. imo, this doesnt even make the celtics that much better. it just settles the locker room a little more since you know kyrie will be there and dont need to worry about a contract. its better for the cavs because they get a little bit of depth but then you have to worry about that incoming max for IT.
I'm not sure it actually makes the celtics better for this season at all
 
its a move for the future that you'd do this trade, which is why you hold the young pieces. if you need to move jae, morris, or other vets thats fine. the core danny ainge wants clearly is kyrie/hayward/jaylen/tatum/horford 
 

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cavs actually have all the leverage here too. kyrie still has a signed contract. they must really want to avoid problems.
 

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IT cant defend in the playoffs and about to be overpaid af. Cavs gonna regret this one if they dont even squeeze out jaylen or the nets pick. Their future is fucked for like a decade if lebron and IT walk
 

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I'm not sure it actually makes the celtics better for this season at all
 
its a move for the future that you'd do this trade, which is why you hold the young pieces. if you need to move jae, morris, or other vets thats fine. the core danny ainge wants clearly is kyrie/hayward/jaylen/tatum/horford 
definitely more for the future but it keeps them at the same level now. i like it. still would consider them the team to come out of the east.
 

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Big Poppa said:
Obviously they dont have to move it, but youre replacing kyrie a 25 year old with IT, thats a no brainer.

All im sayibg is that IT crowder clippers pick is a rape

Cavs settling big time by not getting jaylen taytum or nets 2018 considering their future is up in the air and everyone could dip
If the Cavs are set on trading kyrie, what are they getting better in return than IT/Crowder/LAC 19?
 
Suns aren't moving Booker or Jackson. You're out of your mind if you think Bledsoe and Bender is better than IT and Crowder. Melo's rejecting trades to cleveland and knicks arent trading kristaps. 
 
Boston including the nets pick is just bidding against themselves. They don't need to rush into a deal, because the cavs are just waiting to implode as their current roster
 

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I've had a lot of beer. What are we getting?
 

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Hahah damn nets and lakers picks might be included [emoji23][emoji23]

Good shit cavs
 

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Father Pugzo said:
cavs actually have all the leverage here too. kyrie still has a signed contract. they must really want to avoid problems.
they don't, and this is exactly what i've been saying for the past year about paul george
 
the moment the player says he isnt staying long term, his value is shot. after this season, if kyrie says "fam, imma be a laker 100% no matter what" -- unless he's on the lakers that team aught to trade him away, because might as well get value of return.
 
if lebron after this season leaves the cavs, and kyrie says hes out after the 18-19 season, the cavs have SHIT in trade value. Thats how paul george got traded for Oladipo this offseason.
 
There is no real scenario at this point where the cavs get someone better than isaiah. he's an all nba 2nd teamer for gods sake
 

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If its the offer bosox had, id just fucking keep Kyrie

Fuck thomas man
 

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Big Poppa said:
Obviously they dont have to move it, but youre replacing kyrie a 25 year old with IT, thats a no brainer.

All im sayibg is that IT crowder clippers pick is a rape

Cavs settling big time by not getting jaylen taytum or nets 2018 considering their future is up in the air and everyone could dip
You would be a terrible negotiator 
 

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BNC said:
You would be a terrible negotiator 
Say what u want, thomas crowder and clippers pick is a rape and a cup of orange juice after it
 

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Its a 25 year old kyrie irving were talking about here guys
 

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Big Poppa said:
Say what u want, thomas crowder and clippers pick is a rape and a cup of orange juice after it
And that's not how negotiating works
 

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