Derrick Rose Accused of Drugging and Gang Raping Ex GF

[jonathanlambert33]

Derrick Rose is being sued by a woman who claims the NBA superstar and two of his friends drugged and gang raped her.

The woman, identified only as Jane Doe, says she and Rose dated from 2011 to 2013. During that time, Rose allegedly tried to pressure her to masturbate in front of him, allow him to have sex with her friends and engage in group sex with strangers, all of which she says she refused.

Rose's accuser says the two continued to date until August 2013, when Rose and two friends, Ryan Allen and Randall Hampton (who is also Rose's personal manager), invited her to Rose's Beverly Hills house. She says there, they slipped a drug into her drink with the aim of raping her.

The plaintiff says she escaped the house with a friend, but later that night, Rose and his friends broke into her apartment and gang raped her while she was incapacitated. She says she remembers only "flashes" of the incident, but can remember the defendants forcibly raping her.

She claims she waited for two years to file the suit because she was "ashamed and embarrassed" of what happened and concerned her "conservative family" would find out.


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2015/08/26/derrick-rose-sued-for-gang-rape/#ixzz3jyja74mP

 

[Rios15]

This was hella disturbing to read...

 

[elcheato]

Eh. This is difficult. She waited a couple years, so it's impossible to collect DNA to prove anything, and she isn't pursuing criminal charges (based on the report), just after damages (money). We'll see what happens, but I imagine there will be a settlement down the line and no details will emerge. 

 

[Teagz]

Patrick Kane and Derrick Rose. Not a good offseason for Chicago.

 

[BwareDWare94]

Patrick Kane and Derrick Rose. Not a good offseason for Chicago.

 
And both will probably get off with financial settlements. Oh, the advantages of being an athlete. 

 

[elcheato]

Well, considering it's not a criminal case, that is literally the only possible outcome

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Well, considering it's not a criminal case, that is literally the only possible outcome

Bware was never one to let logic get in the way of his opinion

 

[Hurricane Season]

If this goes to court, and the judge rules in her favor, does that make her a prostitute?

 

[BwareDWare94]

Well, considering it's not a criminal case, that is literally the only possible outcome

 
I'm aware of that, but he has the option to say no to a financial settlement, and then she'll press charges.

 

[elcheato]

It's almost always the opposite. You file a police report, and then take it to civil court if you're upset with the outcome of the criminal trial. If you go to civil court first, it usually means a) the police didn't believe you or didn't feel a case could be made, or b) you're just after money 
 
Like I said, two years after the fact makes it incredibly difficult to prove, which is why Rose probably won't get indicted, assuming the woman actually does go to the police with it, but I doubt that as well, it would have been the first thing she did. 

 

[CameronCrazy06]

elcheato law firm!!!!

 

[Giantmetfan07]

He tried to get her to Masturbate in front of her? Was that part supposed to help her case? I thought most men tried to get their girlfriend to do that.

Is that wrong? I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time.

 

[Pugz]

if my gf didnt play with herself in front of me id be upset.

this seriously is messed up though. terrible to read.

 

[elusive]

If this goes to court, and the judge rules in her favor, does that make her a prostitute?

No, it makes you a scumbag.
 

It's almost always the opposite. You file a police report, and then take it to civil court if you're upset with the outcome of the criminal trial. If you go to civil court first, it usually means a) the police didn't believe you or didn't feel a case could be made, or b) you're just after money 
 
Like I said, two years after the fact makes it incredibly difficult to prove, which is why Rose probably won't get indicted, assuming the woman actually does go to the police with it, but I doubt that as well, it would have been the first thing she did. 

This is only half true, and makes it obvious you have already made up your mind and think she's lying.
 
Here's the most important difference between civil and criminal cases, which you conveniently left out: civil cases require less burden of proof, so they are less difficult to win. In a criminal case, the plaintiff must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty. On the other hand, in a civil case you just have to provide enough evidence to show there's over a 50% chance one party is guilty. This is obviously because a defendant stands to lose more in a criminal case.
 
Let's say everything she said is 100% true. She was afraid to go to the police because she was ashamed and embarrassed about what happened, a reason hundreds of thousands of abused women haven't gone to the police and honestly a completely valid reason. She waits two years and finally has built up the courage to do fight for some sort of justice after being brutally gangraped. Why would she try to bring it to the police, so they might press charges? Like you said, it's two years after the fact and they police may not believe her (I mean, he is the most beloved athlete in Illinois). She's not likely to show any physical damage. Unless if she has a smoking gun, it's unlikely any lawyer will be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt Rose is guilty. She'll have to pay lawyer fees up front (as in it will come out of her pocket until the verdict is reach), and then won't get reimbursed if she loses the case. Nobody wants to pay lawyer fees for two cases, and why would she want this horrific moment of her life dragged out into the public spotlight for years? Did I even mention Rose will have the best lawyers in Chicago?
 
Whether she's lying or not, a civil case is the smartest option.

 

[elcheato]

I'm well aware that a civil case is easier to win. The point was, we're talking about a criminal act. Usually a civil case is not something you pursue first in those circumstances, because most times you report the criminal activity to the police, who investigate and then have the DA bring about the charges. That was the point. There are exceptions to the rule, but that is the norm. 
 
I never said I think she is lying, I even said in my post the police just may not have believed her or thought that there was no way they'd win the case even if they did believe her. 
 
Maybe I'm clueless, but I'm confused as to why you think she would be paying lawyer fees for two cases. The state would be prosecuting Rose, she wouldn't be hiring an attorney to do that. 
 

 
 
The plaintiff's allegations are completely false and without any factual basis. This is nothing more than a desperate attempt to shake down a highly respected and successful athlete. Mr. Rose was in a non-exclusive, consensual sexual relationship with the plaintiff for over two years. The plaintiff expressed no complaints about Mr. Rose until various lawyers began to surface and demand that the plaintiff be paid millions of dollars. This is the third lawyer the plaintiff has retained in this matter. Two years have passed since Mr. Rose ended the consensual relationship with the plaintiff, and her claims are as meritless now as they were two years ago. We have complete confidence that the case will be dismissed and that Mr. Rose will be vindicated. This lawsuit is outrageous.

While most of this is just Rose's lawyers doing his best to dismiss the case, the point about her being on her third lawyer is somewhat telling, in the fact that she has struggled to find someone willing to pursue this. Again, that could be either because they just don't see this as winnable, or they don't believe her. I'm not ruling either out, and don't know why you assumed I had my mind made up. 

 

[elusive]

I'm well aware that a civil case is easier to win. The point was, we're talking about a criminal act. Usually a civil case is not something you pursue first in those circumstances, because most times you report the criminal activity to the police, who investigate and then have the DA bring about the charges. That was the point. There are exceptions to the rule, but that is the norm. 
 
I never said I think she is lying, I even said in my post the police just may not have believed her or thought that there was no way they'd win the case even if they did believe her. 
 
Maybe I'm clueless, but I'm confused as to why you think she would be paying lawyer fees for two cases. The state would be prosecuting Rose, she wouldn't be hiring an attorney to do that. 
 
While most of this is just Rose's lawyers doing his best to dismiss the case, the point about her being on her third lawyer is somewhat telling, in the fact that she has struggled to find someone willing to pursue this. Again, that could be either because they just don't see this as winnable, or they don't believe her. I'm not ruling either out, and don't know why you assumed I had my mind made up. 

I'm glad you're well aware of that, but neglected mentioning it when breaking down the differences between civil and criminal cases.
 
I got the indication that's what you think from what I just mentioned and the "assuming the woman actually does go to the police with it, but I doubt that as well, it would have been the first thing she did." Maybe it wasn't your intention, but whenever there's a case of a woman claiming she was sexually assaulted well after the fact it's always the point made by people trying to prove she's lying.
 
You're right about the lawyer fees, I'm an idiot.

 

[elcheato]

I'm glad you're well aware of that, but neglected mentioning it when breaking down the differences between civil and criminal cases.
 
I got the indication that's what you think from what I just mentioned and the "assuming the woman actually does go to the police with it, but I doubt that as well, it would have been the first thing she did." Maybe it wasn't your intention, but whenever there's a case of a woman claiming she was sexually assaulted well after the fact it's always the point made by people trying to prove she's lying.
 
You're right about the lawyer fees, I'm an idiot.

It was more a counter to bware who was assuming guilt or at the very least assumed their punishment would be lessened because of their celebrity in the posts before me, but when I said "the first thing she did", I meant in the scope of when she decided to take action. Did not mean it would have been what she did immediately after being raped. Women can be traumatized after experiencing something like that, and some just want to forget that it ever happened and never bring it up again, I'm not insensitive to that. I just found it odd that she went to a civil lawyer before filing a police report, because the statute of limitations on rape cases in Illinois is three years (she may have filed a police report, but as of now that hasn't been reported).
 
And I probably should have mentioned more of the differences, but the only difference I thought I needed to mention in response to him was it's always about damages, because I was responding to a post saying that he would "get off with a financial settlement", when that is what the woman is actually pursuing here. 

 

[elusive]

I think we can both agree that bware's post was asinine and showed a lack of understanding of even the most basic law.

 

[Hurricane Season]

No, it makes you a scumbag.

 
Damn, I sure hope she loses.

 

[dez]

She Lyin

One of her statements was about linking up after games he never played in/attended while injured in 2012/13 I think..

She jus want the money.