Cris Carter: "Calvin Johnson Not Great"

[kam.]

Calvin isn't in Andre's league. Period.

I don't even like Andre.. but it is what it is.

 

[elcheato]

What question, the dumb one asking me to predict his numbers if he was on a different team? Or are you looking for me to tell you that Andre is a more polished WR and runs better routes?

 

[RipCity32]

What question, the dumb one asking me to predict his numbers if he was on a different team? Or are you looking for me to tell you that Andre is a more polished WR and runs better routes?

What makes him a more polished WR?
And do you watch both players in every game to see who runs better routes? lmao.
Half the time you don't even see the routes the WR's run.

 

[elcheato]

What makes him a more polished WR?
And do you watch both players in every game to see who runs better routes? lmao.
Half the time you don't even see the routes the WR's run.

So I'm suppose to believe either you, the guy who probably has never seen a Texans game is in his life, or everyone else around the football world who has the same opinion?

 

[kam.]

What makes him a more polished WR?
And do you watch both players in every game to see who runs better routes? lmao.
Half the time you don't even see the routes the WR's run.

Andre is a better route runner than Calvin.

 

[RipCity32]

So I'm suppose to believe either you, the guy who probably has never seen a Texans game is in his life, or everyone else around the football world who has the same opinion?

I'm not trying to get anyone to believe me, just stating my opinion. And I've seen Texans games lol.
You can have your opinion, and I'll have mine. Don't really give a fuck bout the rest of the football world. I see no reason that Andre is any better than Calvin.

 

[kam.]

Also, why do all Lion fans point out Stafford like hes some god? From what I've seen, hes a middle of the league QB.. not a Game Changer.

 

[RipCity32]

Cause he's shown flashes that he can be a great QB.
If he becomes a good one I guess is a good question. But for me the durability is the issue, not the talent. He will show that this year if he stays healthy. Fully confident.

 

[kam.]

Cause he's shown flashes that he can be a great QB.
If he becomes a good one I guess is a good question. But for me the durability is the issue, not the talent. He will show that this year if he stays healthy. Fully confident.

Thats if he stays healthy. I seen lion fans on another forum pretty much saying that Stafford is top 10 and shit.. and that he won't be injured at all this year.

He was UNTOUCHED in the Bengals preseason game, they had no pass rush and the Lions stayed in Shotgun to make sure he wasn't touched.. doesn't seem like alot of faith in him to stay healthy.

Andre and Fitz is just better than Calvin.

Don't get me wrong, Calvin is a good WR, but he won't be a HOF type player, Andre/Fitz are. Its everything from route running, snatching the ball, etc.

Calvin = Good
Andre, Fitz = Great.

Cris is right here.

 

[RipCity32]

I'm not one of those Lions fans lol. I think Stafford will be good, but I think he needs to prove it first. I'm not basing shit off the pre-season game.

And I disagree with what you said bout CJ. I look for a complete breakout season if Stafford is out there all 16. Which is hard cause he had a great season last year.

 

[kam.]

I'm not one of those Lions fans lol. I think Stafford will be good, but I think he needs to prove it first. I'm not basing shit off the pre-season game.

And I disagree with what you said bout CJ. I look for a complete breakout season if Stafford is out there all 16. Which is hard cause he had a great season last year.

If he even does break out he won't be in Andre/Fitz' level..

They've been doing it for years with shitty QBs.. Calvin needs Stafford to break out?

 

[RipCity32]

If he even does break out he won't be in Andre/Fitz' level..

They've been doing it for years with shitty QBs.. Calvin needs Stafford to break out?

No, Calvin statistically had a great season last year without Stafford. I think with Stafford though he will get even better.

 

[WHO-DEY-BENGALS_18]

Thats if he stays healthy. I seen lion fans on another forum pretty much saying that Stafford is top 10 and shit.. and that he won't be injured at all this year.

He was UNTOUCHED in the Bengals preseason game, they had no pass rush and the Lions stayed in Shotgun to make sure he wasn't touched.. doesn't seem like alot of faith in him to stay healthy.

Andre and Fitz is just better than Calvin.

Don't get me wrong, Calvin is a good WR, but he won't be a HOF type player, Andre/Fitz are. Its everything from route running, snatching the ball, etc.

Calvin = Good
Andre, Fitz = Great.

Cris is right here.

That's what happens when Mike Zimmer doesn't call any of his exotic blitzes. <_<

 

[kam.]

No, Calvin statistically had a great season last year without Stafford. I think with Stafford though he will get even better.

Still not on the level of Fitz/Andre

Calvin will never be a HOF player.. Andre/Fitz will be the next T.O/Moss

 

[RipCity32]

Still not on the level of Fitz/Andre

Calvin will never be a HOF player.. Andre/Fitz will be the next T.O/Moss

Still don't agree lol. But it is what it is.

 

[kam.]

lol smh.

 

[WHO-DEY-BENGALS_18]

Lets just put it this way.... You couldn't go wrong with having either of the three - Andre, Calvin, Larry.

 

[Yankees2772]

Andre Johnson's last season before Matt Schaub in 2006 [with David Carr...] he had 103 receptions, 1147 yards, and 5 TDs (Carr only threw for 11). That season is as almost as good as any Calvin has had, and I don't think anyone here would even think about arguing that Andre hasn't gotten any better in the past 5 years.

 

[ZigZag]

Give Calvin a couple more years to refine himself and we'll see. Andre and Fitz's intangibles are incredible, real game changers

 

[kam.]

Give Calvin a couple more years to refine himself and we'll see. Andre and Fitz's intangibles are incredible, real game changers

Been in the league since 07... how much time does he need? lol