Clippers Send First Rounder To Celtics For Doc

[elcheato]

Get who? DeAndre Jordan?
 
The reason the league wouldn't accept that is because DeAndre is trash

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Monty Williams is now the NBA's 5th longest tenured coach...
 

 
Three years in the NBA is an eternity.

 

[bosoxlover12]

Get who? DeAndre Jordan?
 
The reason the league wouldn't accept that is because DeAndre is trash

posts like these are why we need the neg button again

 

[jonathanlambert33]

DeAndre is trash though.

 

[elcheato]

Neg cause I'm right
 

 

[bosoxlover12]

How is he trash? He's an athletic C that is a good shot blocker and rebounder. Offensively he fits REALLY well with Rondo, better than any other C he's had (KG I consider a PF). And with Sully and Dre, we have two great rebounders on the court.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

So good shot blocker and rebounder equals good defender?

 

[bosoxlover12]

Better defender than Brandon Bass or anyone else we'd put next to Sullinger

 

[jonathanlambert33]

That makes zero sense

 

[bosoxlover12]

That makes zero sense

how does that make zero sense???

Sullinger is starting next year. So unless we start Fab Melo, who isn't ready yet to be a role player/starter yet, Jordan is the best available defender

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Well for starters, how do you know who is available and who isn't?

 

[bosoxlover12]

Are you literally that fucking retarded? It's not rocket science to figure out who's a FA or who's a likely trade option


I'm done wasting my time with you

 

[jonathanlambert33]

But I'm not the guy who thinks Jordan is a good player or actually is a good fit with any PG.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

And to take it one step further do you know who the FA's or trade targets are because you have access to the internet?

Do you have any idea how many guys will be available that aren't getting talked about in the media? Guys who decline their options, guys who have their former teams decline their options, guys who only have partially guaranteed contracts, guys who have fully guranteed contracts that get traded out of the blue without Adrian Wojnarowski tweeting about them. You really have no idea about all the players that are available. It's more than just the guys you'll read about on hoopshype or something like that. You are incredibly naive if you think otherwise.

And to take it one step further than that there are plenty of guys that are available or could potentially come available that are better fits or smarter solutions than DeAndre Jordan.

 

[Pugz]

naive is such a strong word. narrowminded wouldve worked better.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Another question I heard discussed today. How is what Doc did any different from what Dwight, Melo, etc did?

He signed a 5 year deal and didn't even serve half of it, and as soon as the going got tough he jumped ship.

 

[Pugz]

it was either ask to leave or get fired though because thats what happens when the team isnt good which isnt always the coaches fault.

 

[bosoxlover12]

Another question I heard discussed today. How is what Doc did any different from what Dwight, Melo, etc did?He signed a 5 year deal and didn't even serve half of it, and as soon as the going got tough he jumped ship.

we weren't going to pay Doc $7M annually for a 30 win team

 

[jonathanlambert33]

If this were happening in 1990, we'd probably have some kind of word for it. Like "The Docalypse." Or "Running Rivers." Maybe "Dr. Changelove: Or He Learned to Stop Caring and Leave the Celtics." OK, I think that last one was a reach.

But Doc Rivers isn't a player anymore; he's a coach. And for some unknown reason, that makes this all acceptable.

I don't claim to know all the inner details of the situation with Rivers and the Celtics, and by all appearances Danny Ainge and the organization seem more than fine with releasing the 51-year-old coach to go to the Clippers in exchange for a future first round pick.

But let's face the facts: Rivers has essentially forced his way out of Boston in the same way Dwight Howard did in Orlando or Carmelo Anthony in Denver or Deron Williams in Utah or Chris Paul in New Orleans. Rivers made his intentions and wishes clear and while the call was ultimately with Ainge and owner Wyc Grousbeck, the team had to eventually cave to its coach. Why would Rivers want to leave Boston, a place he's been for a decade and won a championship while becoming one of the most beloved figures in town? The only apparent reason or explanation is that he doesn't want to endure a rebuilding phase with the Celtics.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/22510115/doc-rivers-is-abandoning-the-celtics-and-that-shouldnt-be-ok

 

[bosoxlover12]

I wasn't disagreeing that he forced his way out


The difference was Utah and Orlando and Cleveland would have loved to keep their guys on roster, while Boston was ready for Doc to go when KG/Pierce leave