Bye Bye Redskins?

[Fuhgeddaboudit]

Blackhawks?

 

[elcheato]

"Black Hawk, born Ma-ka-tai-me-she-kia-kiak, (1767 October 3, 1838) was a war leader and warrior of the Sauk American Indian tribe in what is now the Midwest of the United States"

 

[Fuhgeddaboudit]

Aren't they mostly dead?

 

[Teagz]

Blackhawks?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-blackhawks-name-hasnt-been-as-controversial-heres-why-20140618,0,7651702.story

 

[Fuhgeddaboudit]

These people are reaching now. Insanity

 

[Hurricane Season]

The problem with all of this is WHO is attempting to force the issue. If native Americans find the name offensive, fine, let's hear what you have to say, but I do not give a FUCK what a white person has to say on the subject. It doesn't fucking matter whether a you do or don't find the name offensive. It isn't up to you to decide that, so stop trying to tell people how they should feel, just so you can hop up on your high horse and preach more self-righteous bullshit.

I don't know who I'm talking to with the "you's" and "your's"... Old white folks in general, I suppose. Fuck Keith Olbermann.

 

[Hurricane Season]

And fuck Bob Costas

 

[Mobruler]

The problem with all of this is WHO is attempting to force the issue. If native Americans find the name offensive, fine, let's hear what you have to say, but I do not give a FUCK what a white person has to say on the subject. It doesn't fucking matter whether a you do or don't find the name offensive. It isn't up to you to decide that, so stop trying to tell people how they should feel, just so you can hop up on your high horse and preach more self-righteous bullshit.

I don't know who I'm talking to with the "you's" and "your's"... Old white folks in general, I suppose. Fuck Keith Olbermann.

 
Which percentage of the country's population do Native Americans have to hold to make it not okay to sell hats at Lids that call them their equivalent of "nigger"?
 
It's not about a "white person" being offended by it.  It's about "white person"s, and everyone else, recognizing that a group of this country's population is being slurred, as small as it may be.
 
I don't have to be a black guy to know that when I hear someone drop a sincere N-bomb that it is completely wrong and reprehensible.
 
This country was built on the idea that everyone deserves equality no matter which race, color, sex or religious orientation they choose.  Native Americans should not be being called their equivalent of "kike" on jerseys at the NFL Shop.

 

[RipCity32]

Call a fucking team the Crackers, Dagos, Wops, or Guineas or any other term to describe my racial or ethnic background and see how many fucks I give. 
People are too over-sensitive nowadays. H-MYK said it right. 
 
Just my two-cents.

 

[Fuhgeddaboudit]

That's the USA , Rip

 

[BwareDWare94]

Folks....
 
Redskin is essentially the N word in reference to Native Americans. THAT'S why it's a problem. Not because it falsely depicts anything--you and I both know their logo isn't a caricature, much like the Fighting Sioux logo wasn't a caricature, but one way or the other Redskin is a racial slur, and should not be allowed to be a professional sports mascot and team name.

 

[bosoxlover12]

Why is redskins offensive but not indians

 

[elcheato]

The name isn't offensive but the logo is tremendously offensive. They should change the name and the logo though

 

[Mobruler]

Why is redskins offensive but not indians

 
Well because the Washington Redskins is the equivalent of the Washington N-words and the Cleveland Indians are the equivalent of the Dallas Cowboys.  One is a racial slur and the other is a non-aggressive characterization of a civilization of people.

 

[Mobruler]

The name isn't offensive but the logo is tremendously offensive. They should change the name and the logo though

 
I don't think the logo is offensive at all.  It's about the name.  The Cleveland Indians bucktooth cartoon Indian logo would be conceived as far more offensive.

 

[bosoxlover12]

 
Well because the Washington Redskins is the equivalent of the Washington N-words and the Cleveland Indians are the equivalent of the Dallas Cowboys.  One is a racial slur and the other is a non-aggressive characterization of a civilization of people.

You realize Indian is fairly racist as well, knowing they aren't Indians. Columbus was just an egocentric asshat who assumed he reached India.

Indian to the Native American community is like calling an American team the Rednecks

 

[Hurricane Season]

The Washington White Guilts

 

[Big Bid'Ness]

 
Potential New Names for the Washington Redskins By Brad Gagnon , NFC East Lead Writer Jun 18, 2014

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News broke Wednesday that the United States Patent and Trademark Office has canceled the Washington Redskins trademark registration, ruling that the name is "disparaging to Native Americans."
Appeals will undoubtedly be filed, but as we noted back in March, this could eventually be a death knell for the most blatantly racist nickname in professional sports.


 


And as momentum builds for a new name, ideas are being tossed around. Naturally, many of them are comical (see: Twitter hashtag "newredskinsname"), but some are legit. 
 
For example...
Senators: The political connection is obvious, but there's a deep history there, too. This would work as a nod to the former D.C.-based MLB teams that now play in Minnesota and Texas, and it was also the name of the Washington NFL team in 1921.
 
Federals: Capitals, Nationals and Federals. Makes sense, I guess.
 
Braves: Wouldn't this be a significantly more respectful and significantly less controversial way to honor Native Americans? Plus, this was the franchise's original name back in Boston. They only became the Redskins to avoid confusion with that city's baseball team. 
 
Warriors: Same deal here regarding the respect factor. And in both cases, they can maintain a similar logo to the one they currently have. According to the Washington City Paper (h/t Slate), owner Dan Snyder trademarked "Washington Warriors" well over a decade ago. 
 
Redhawks: Miami University made this exact change nearly two decades ago. It sounds similar, has a similar connotation and has the same number of syllables, which could help the team maintain its fight song.
 
Skins: It's possible simply removing the "Red" part of the name won't satisfy those who oppose it, but it would be an easy fix considering that most of us already refer to the team this way.
From Sports Illustrated's Don Banks:
Renegades: Honestly, it's just a cool name and one that's been batted around a fair bit. But it is more of a departure than everything else above. 
The subtraction of three letters—RED—simultaneously addresses the two most important issues being argued over in this debate: It removes from Washington's nickname the offensive part of the word that describes a Native American’s skin color. And yet it maintains part of the name that the team has been known as since the franchise moved from Boston in the late 1930s.
A Redskins fan has already called their team the 'Skins for probably as long as they've been fans. It's not a drastic, wholesale change to another name, and it leaves Washington with some ability to give a nod to its team history and identity, the same way the NFL allowed the Cleveland Browns to retain their name, heritage and colors when the city's original franchise relocated to Baltimore in 1996.
Pigskins: This makes sense in so many ways. You keep "Skins," you incorporate a popular team tradition and the name itself references football.  
Or I suppose they could just become the football team formerly known as the Redskins, adopting an unpronounceable symbol instead.

 

[Delirium]

I actually made up a team called the Washington Warriors in Blitz: the League. I sketched up the designs and everything. So essentially I should be able to copyright the name and make money, right?

 
 
Edit: Nevermind, I read into that a bit more and saw Dan Snyder already trademarked that. Fuck you Dan Snyder, got dammit

 

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