2016 Trade Rumors

[Phil The Thrill]

There is no Posey argument.

 

[Boogie]

I'm not acting like that at all. Quit putting words in my mouth.
 
Perez is just better defensively. He has been the last 4 seasons. He's probably the best defensive catcher in baseball.

I can see why you would think that. He's definitely top 3.

 

[Boogie]

Posey is probably the best all around catcher in baseball.

 

[Boogie]

Lucroy was a MVP candidate two years ago. He's def the #1 C in baseball
I was talking about the polls we have going on here. Lucroy is 4th behind Yadier even

Lucroy was a MVP candidate two years ago. He's def the #1 C in baseball
I was talking about the polls we have going on here. Lucroy is 4th behind Yadier even

Lucroy is definitely not the #1 C in baseball.

 

[bosoxlover12]

-- Serious Bosox here now -- 
Note: all my statements will be based off of the decent amount of baseball I've watched this year (I'm coming back to the game, slowly) and stats from FanGraphs
 
 
Perez is by far the best defensive catcher in the game, and Lucroy is by far the best offensive catcher in the game. And per statistical variance, Lucroy is the far valued player, as his offensive rating is higher than Perez's defense, and Lucroy's defense is higher than Perez's hitting. From what is seems, Lucroy is the top catcher in baseball.
 
Two comments on that:
1. Why would you get mad at a fan voting that put him 4th, moneyman? It's a stupid fan vote that literally means nothing
2. Just because he's the best catcher doesn't mean he presents the best value?
 
He's for certain going to be a 1st baseman in 2 years. There he loses a ton of his value, since his numbers would definitely not make him one of the best hitting first basemen -- catchers just usually suck at hitting, comparatively.  To me, that's not worth losing a prospect that the Red Sox have that highly valued. The last guy Boston valued that high was Mookie Betts, and I'd rather have Betts over Lucroy. 
 
Package around Devers for Lucroy? Sure. But I'm not giving up Moncada for him

 

[BrewCrewFan]

He's been the best C this year by far

 

[BrewCrewFan]

-- Serious Bosox here now -- 
Note: all my statements will be based off of the decent amount of baseball I've watched this year (I'm coming back to the game, slowly) and stats from FanGraphs
 
 
Perez is by far the best defensive catcher in the game, and Lucroy is by far the best offensive catcher in the game. And per statistical variance, Lucroy is the far valued player, as his offensive rating is higher than Perez's defense, and Lucroy's defense is higher than Perez's hitting. From what is seems, Lucroy is the top catcher in baseball.
 
Two comments on that:
1. Why would you get mad at a fan voting that put him 4th, moneyman? It's a stupid fan vote that literally means nothing
2. Just because he's the best catcher doesn't mean he presents the best value?
 
He's for certain going to be a 1st baseman in 2 years. There he loses a ton of his value, since his numbers would definitely not make him one of the best hitting first basemen -- catchers just usually suck at hitting, comparatively.  To me, that's not worth losing a prospect that the Red Sox have that highly valued. The last guy Boston valued that high was Mookie Betts, and I'd rather have Betts over Lucroy. 
 
Package around Devers for Lucroy? Sure. But I'm not giving up Moncada for him

I don't really understand the point that he will be moved to 1st in a year or two . That's not true at all

 

[catman]

Giving up Devers might be a bit much.  What does Milwaukee need?  Just like every other team, they need starting pitching.  How about Brian Johnson for Lucroy?

 

[Phil The Thrill]

Devers is overhyped. 

 

[Senators26]

Russell Martin is better than Jonathan Lucroy

 

[Boogie]

Giants are already a threat to win it all but to make it clear they need bullpen and outfield help.

 

[Phil The Thrill]

Giants need to fuck off with this even year shit. It's getting weird.

 

[bosoxlover12]

I just remember this stat from the offseason
 
every year boston plays san francisco, one of them wins the world series. fact.

 

[Phil The Thrill]

Lol how long has that been the case for?

 

[bosoxlover12]

since the boston red sox franchise first played the san fran giants franchise
 

 

[Boogie]

since the boston red sox franchise first played the san fran giants franchise
 

Interesting.

 

[Phil The Thrill]

since the boston red sox franchise first played the san fran giants franchise
 

 
Thought they would have played since the beginning of interleague and the 2004 world series.

 

[elcheato]

The Indians could use a catcher :kobe: 

 

[Big Papi]

Giving up Devers might be a bit much.  What does Milwaukee need?  Just like every other team, they need starting pitching.  How about Brian Johnson for Lucroy?

Oh no, no. Johnson is 25 and a low B rating prospect. We'll need to give up an A tier + 2 B's.

It'll be more like Devers/Benintendi + Owens + Chavis for Lucroy

 

[catman]

Giving up Devers might be a bit much.  What does Milwaukee need?  Just like every other team, they need starting pitching.  How about Brian Johnson for Lucroy?

 

Oh no, no. Johnson is 25 and a low B rating prospect. We'll need to give up an A tier + 2 B's.

It'll be more like Devers/Benintendi + Owens + Chavis for Lucroy
 
 
 
 
Lucroy is only signed through 2016, with a club option for 17.  He would likely demand that the option be voided for a trade to be accepted.  He has no-trade protection against deals to 8 teams (not sure which 8).  His contract is very club-friendly as it currently exists.