2016/17 NBA Regular Season Thread

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BNC said:
 
 
Well.. which is it? All about stats or not?
Dude get off my dick and stop being a smartass. Read all the damn posts, i explained the difference. When u have 4 other all stars on your team its ALOT easier to do what curry is doing vs what russ is doing and carrying a bunch of bums the way hes doing and staying relevant.

If what russ is doing isnt impressive , youve got some serious hate issues for him and of coure kobe cuz u used to be the same way with him smh
 

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More like its not like he even cares about that side of the floor lol
 

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Yoooo Lebron shrugging off marcus smart was hilarious lmaoo
 

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So everybody's getting triple doubles these days. I think these guys are really trying to play 2k in real life.
 

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paulius said:
Dude get off my dick and stop being a smartass. Read all the damn posts, i explained the difference. When u have 4 other all stars on your team its ALOT easier to do what curry is doing vs what russ is doing and carrying a bunch of bums the way hes doing and staying relevant.

If what russ is doing isnt impressive , youve got some serious hate issues for him and of coure kobe cuz u used to be the same way with him smh
Just because it's easier doesn't mean he's not as good of a player. It's funny how you're only bringing up stats when they help your argument. I don't hate Russ at all, I really like watching him play, but the shit you say about him is stupid
 

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paulius said:
The Suns were league average on defense while starting Amare at center and Nash at point and giving heavy minutes to Barbosa, that's impressive
 

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BNC said:
Just because it's easier doesn't mean he's not as good of a player. It's funny how you're only bringing up stats when they help your argument. I don't hate Russ at all, I really like watching him play, but the shit you say about him is stupid
Curry is a better shooter , Russ is the better overall basketball player.

Russ is better than him at everything except shooting the 3 ball.

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The Suns were league average on defense while starting Amare at center and Nash at point and giving heavy minutes to Barbosa, that's impressive
Thats not impressive , thats average.

This year theyre 19th in the league. Thats below average.

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not as confident as everybody in this thread
 

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paulius said:
Curry is a better shooter , Russ is the better overall basketball player.

Russ is better than him at everything except shooting the 3 ball.
For arguments sake, lets just say this statement is true (which it's absolutely not but whatever)

If Westbrook is better than Curry in every aspect except shooting, then he must have been last year as well. Curry didn't just magically lose the ability to pass the ball, dribble, finish, etc.

Last year Westbrook only beat Curry in rebounds and assists (which didn't help that Draymond was stealing assists from Curry all year, but not the point). Curry was the unanimous regular season MVP, and you've even alluded to that Curry was better than Russ last year (saying "If this is strictly this year...")

So what's changed in the scenarios between Curry and Westbrook? Neither had major surgeries in this timeframe, affecting their physical abilities. The difference is one team lost a 28ppg scorer and now is reliant on their point guard to do everything, while the other point guard gained that same scorer and now does not need to be trying nearly as hard to carry the team.

Does Westbrook put up better numbers this season? Sure. He's hosting an NBA high usage percentage and is trying to control every aspect of the game. Curry has the ball in his hands significantly less than he did last year.

But neither player is really all that different from last year in their abilities, and that's my point. On a vague, unfocused level it appears that Curry has regressed and Westbrook has significantly improved. When the truth is their circumstances have just changed regarding their necessities of reliance for their respective teams.
 

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Can we ban the names of Russell Westbrook and James Harden for like a month?
 

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Yeah, that way we can talk more about 47.8% Corner 3 Specialist Marcus Smart
 

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paulius said:
Curry is a better shooter , Russ is the better overall basketball player.

Russ is better than him at everything except shooting the 3 ball.

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Thats not impressive , thats average.

This year theyre 19th in the league. Thats below average.

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Russ isn't a better defender or passer, also that shooting thing masked a pretty big difference. 
 
Loo yea yea cause he's supposed to be able to turn terrible defenders into a top tier defense. Thins couldn't have those guys running a top ten defense. It's about the situation, not just numbers, or is that different in this scenario cause it doesn't fit your argument?? 
 
This year they're 18th, and the difference between them and 10th is less than the difference between first and third, but when you have the fourth best offender of all time I think it's ok for your defense to be average
 

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elcheato said:
Can we ban the names of Russell Westbrook and James Harden for like a month?
We really should just make a separate thread for people to debate those two.
 

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Westbrook is better at Defense,getting assists,rebounds
They are the same at passing,handling,finishing (layups etc)
Westbrook is a better dunker
Westbrook and Curry are similar at mid range
Curry better 3pt/far mid range
 
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