2011-2012 official NBA transaction/rumor thread

[bosoxlover12]

I wouldn't. He cannot shoot for his life.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

He led the NBA in assists per game... like are you serious?

 

[bosoxlover12]

He led the NBA in assists per game... like are you serious?

Dead serious.

Pierce, Ray, KG. All are great shooters. Rondo most of the time waits at the top of the key, and waits for them to get separation, and they knock it down. Rondo's offensive success is contingent on how the others play. Take last game as example, we missed so many shots, and Rondo was awful because he felt like taking over. Because others couldn't hit, he felt like he had to try. He couldn't either.

If I could have a trade of Rondo for Nash, I would do it in a millisecond. Without a doubt. Nash would be so much better for our offense.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

I don't think you realize that the Celtics wouldn't be a playoff team this year without Rondo. You can say that his offense is so contingent on how the others play, but he means so much to the offense of every player on their team that no player would be having the season they are without him.

 

[Pugz]

The Warriors are working on a trade with the Jazz to keep their first round pick regardless of what happens in the lottery, according to sources.

Golden State has a 72 percent change of keeping their pick as it is top-seven protected.

But the Warriors are interested in insuring that they keep the pick in case a team behind them jumps into the top-three.

The Warriors are prepared to give up a trade asset or two.

One source with knowledge of the discussions described the chances of a trade by Wednesday as "likely."

The Warriors can offer Utah a combination of future draft considerations, cash and/or a relaxation of the current restrictions on Utah's rights to the pick in question in either 2013 or 2014. At present, Golden State's 2013 pick is top-seven protected and its 2014 pick is top-six protected.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Golden State must have a guy they really like.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

I wonder what bosox thinks of Rondo now....

 

[Pugz]

then he turns it over. lol

 

[jonathanlambert33]

I wonder what bosox thinks of Rondo now....

irrelevant

 

[bosoxlover12]

I wonder what bosox thinks of Rondo now....

I only watched the 2nd half (played 2K in the first)
From what I could tell through statlines, his first half was not good. Only 5 assists, and was not shooting well.

During the 3rd quarter and most of the 4th, I was assured of my opinion. Aside for like 3 or 4 plays in this timespan, Rondo slowly walked up to the top of the key, and passed the ball, then got passed back, and passed it to someone new. There would be a turnover or a basket off that next pass. Rondo would then walk back to play defense. When someone picked him up top, he turned and walked around a bit and waited for a rebound to come to him.


It was some of the laziest basketball I have ever seen from a guard. When I mean walk, I mean walk. Not run, not jog, but slowly walking at a calm pace. That should not be happening.


Then Pierce fouled out on a charge that was debatebly a flop on the defender, so the defense started to guard KG and Ray more, with no Pierce. They left Rondo open, and he surprisingly hit some of the shots. He missed some, and he hit some, including the deepish three. And look, if he can shoot like that in game consistently, then I'd be thrilled. Realistically, Rondo wont be hitting threes that deep for the rest of the playoffs.

Rondo had like 7 points in the game before Pierce was ejected. Rondo was left open, and he luckily hit some shots. He should, as an NBA player, be able to hit wide open jumpers.


I'm still not impressed by Rondo in the slightest. SOOOO overrated. He's an athletically gifted kid who is so lazy, and that hurts Boston.
With Ray Allen's ankles being so poor right now, we might need Rondo to guard Wade at some points. Thats really bad; Wade will torch him on high pick and roles

 

[Mexi]

bosox is my favorite celtics fan

 

[bosoxlover12]

bosox is my favorite celtics fan

:+1: lol

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Portland trades Wesley Matthews, Nicolas Batum(S&T), and Shawne Williams 2012 1st round pick *Nets

Houston trades Kevin Martin, Kyle Lowry, Courtney Lee, Patrick Patterson, 2012 1st round pick *Knicks and 2013 1st round pick(top 5 protected)Rockets

New Orleans trades Eric Gordon(S&T) and Trevor Ariza

Portland acquires Kevin Martin, Trevor Ariza, and Kyle Lowry

Houston aquires Eric Gordon and Nicolas Batum

New Orleans aquires Wesley Matthews, Shawne Williams, Patrick Patterson, Courtney Lee, 2012 1st round pick *Nets, 2012 1st round pick *Knicks, and 2013 1st round pick *Rockets

Trade proposal from a Hornets fan...

:jackie:

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Rockets point guard Kyle Lowry doesn’t sound like someone who would prefer to return to Houston next season.

On Friday, Lowry told Rockets beat writer Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle he can’t see both he and unrestricted free agent Goran Dragic coming back.

Just a few weeks after surgery to fix torn abductor muscles and a sports hernia, Lowry told Feigen:

“I don’t think so. I honestly think it would be tough. Things have to be addressed. The situation would have to be addressed.

“If things aren’t addressed coaching-wise, I guess I have to be moved.”

Lowry made it clear that he has undisclosed problems with head coach Kevin McHale. Though McHale and general manager Daryl Morey downplayed any issues, Lowry clearly is unhappy.

Morey told Feigen:

“I think Kyle and coach McHale are both winners and both competitive guys. “I don’t anticipate any issues going forward.”

At one point during the season, Lowry had to be restrained from going after the coach.

A tremendous defender and rebounder, Lowry averaged career highs of 14.3 points, 6.6 assists and 4.6 rebounds per game in 47 contests (In 38 starts, Lowry’s numbers were 15.9 points, 7.2 assists and 1.8 steals per game). However, his injuries opened the door for Dragic, who averaged 18 points, 8.4 assists and 1.8 steals per game in 28 starts of his own.

Dragic is a far better shooter and finisher than Lowry, except for from three-point range and from the free throw line, where they shoot about the same. Lowry is an elite defender at the point guard spot and a better rebounder.

For his career, Lowry has averaged 10.4 points and 4.8 assists. Lowry has two very reasonable years remaining on his contract and will earn $5.75 million in 2012-1 and $6.2 million in 2013-14.

The Raptors are extremely high on Lowry, so there is little doubt – despite Morey’s desire to keep Lowry in the fold – that he and Raptors GM Bryan Colangelo will discuss a Lowry deal. If that falls through the Raptors could instead pursue Dragic, though I do not know if he is a favourite of theirs like Lowry or not.

After Lowry burned the Raptors for a game-high 26 points (including 4-for-4 from three) in a three-point win in Houston, I asked Raptors head coach Dwane Casey what he thought of Lowry and Casey lauded the guard for his toughness and ability.

“He’s a hell of a competitor. He’s their heart and soul and spirit of their team and I love the way he plays,” Casey said.

Long-time Raptor Alvin Williams, now a scout with the team, is extremely close with Lowry and is one of his mentors. Both are from Philadelphia and both played for Villanova. “Alvin is my main man,” Lowry once said.

Complicating a potential deal would be the fact that Houston would have to be sure Dragic will re-sign long-term with the club to be its starter before opting to trade Lowry. That won’t happen until July 1st, after the draft. It would likely be Toronto’s pick – 8th before Wednesday’s lottery – that Houston would be after. The Rockets own the 14th pick (again, pre-lottery) and the 16th. It’s hard to see the Rockets wanting anything besides Toronto’s pick in a potential Lowry deal since Jonas Valanciunas and Andrea Bargnani won’t be on the table. DeMar DeRozan’s advanced stats likely don’t impress Morey, who is a huge believer in advanced statistical analysis.

Plus there’s the fact other teams could make better offers. Lowry and Luis Scola nearly became Lakers last season in exchange for Pau Gasol and Gasol is very much on the block again and the Rockets have always coveted him.

As well, Lowry has had injury issues including a torn ACL early in his career and has an edge. He was charged with battery after being accused of throwing a ball at a female referee during the lockout. Lowry apologized, received 100 hours of community service and impulse-control counseling.

However, for years the Raptors have lacked extremely competitive, hard-nosed players and that’s a major reason why they haven’t had much success.

Unless Dragic says he’s not coming back, Lowry’s likely moving somewhere. Would he be OK with supplanting Jose Calderon as starter in Toronto if Calderon is still seeing considerable time, some of it in the same backcourt as Lowry? Who knows.

What we do know is he is not interested in splitting time with Dragic.

“We’re both capable starters. We both want it. It’s going to have to be a situation where they make a decision on one of us.

“It has nothing to do with Goran. I’m not happy with the way coaches handled things. If management wants to do something to keep Goran, I think I’ll have to be moved,” Lowry told Feigen.

“I think I’m still a foundation guy. You can build around me. If I’m not here, that’s welcomed. If I’m here, I guess that’s welcome, too.”

Interesting stuff indeed.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

First transaction of the offseason: The Magic waive Von Wafer.

Lol let the offseason begin.

 

[Pugz]

The Warriors and Jazz were working on a trade involving the conveyance of a first round pick in the 2012 NBA Draft.

Golden State gets to keep their pick if it is in the top-seven, but it will be dealt to the Jazz if it is No. 8 or lower.

Sources say trade talks between the two sides are all but dead.

The Warriors have a 72.66% chance of keeping the pick based on odds released by the NBA.

 

[bosoxlover12]

Trade proposal from a Hornets fan...

:jackie:

thats a good trade for the Hornets, IMO.


For a rebuilding team, having 5 1sts (4 lottery picks) is really good. Wes Matthews is solid, Patterson is as well.

They could technically land MKG, Drummond, Marshall, Sully, and Ross in the draft. Add Patterson and Wes Matthews to it, along with getting rid of Ariza's bad contract? Thats worth losing EJ

 

[.infamous]

lol bosox. You don't understand what he meant with that post.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

I don't think it's a bad deal for the Hornets, but I'd rather keep what we have now and take the chance with Gordon. Real life isn't 2K, the chances of having all those rookies and having them develop are slim. It's just human nature that coaches would put some of those guys in the back seat compared to some other guys. For example, if the Hornets draft MKG this year, Farouq will never develop into even a solid role player because Monty and company will focus most of their attention on MKG.

But the other parts of that deal, like Portland, wow. Terrible.

 

[BwareDWare94]

HOU receives:
PG Rajon Rondo
PF Pau Gasol
PF JaJuan Johnson

LAL receives:
PG Kyle Lowry
PF Luis Scola
SG E'Twaun Moore

BOS receives:
SG Kevin Martin
PF Marcus Morris
SF Chandler Parsons
#16 overall in the 2012 NBA Draft
#14 overall in the 2012 NBA Draft (pending lottery)


Letsdoit! Lol

I will go to Houston and put two black eyes on that fat fuck Daryl Morey if he trades Chandler Parsons.