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And everyone here was shocked you said that. Also, my point was about Kyrie, who I've never seen you criticize (at least that I can remember)

Lolololol

Again, what are they supposed to do? The internet completely eliminated the need for sportscenter

I mean he was good, I can actually admit that unlike you who is silent after he plays poorly

Huh?   And they have a number of good radio programs. And other companies acquiring distributions rights has done what exactly? Cause no one has emerged as a potential threat to ESPN. Again, what are they supposed to do? The opinion shows are the only ones that aren't easily replaced by the internet

By doing what though?    Seriously, I know a lot of people wish they would go back to only showing highlights but to me that seems kinda irresponsible of them and also seems like it's not a viable business model with social media/youtube/reddit etc.

Fair, but rooting for their failure doesn't make a ton of sense. Just don't watch it if you don't like it. There's still a number of quality programs they have.    I just don't understand why people are so infatuated with ESPN crumbling to the ground, if they do what are your options for sports...

Excited people are losing jobs? That's odd..

First take gets views and can be highly entertaining, it's not why they're losing viewers. Most of the ratings drops can be attributed to cord cutters than anything else, not to mention how the internet has diminished the need to show highlights 

How much is a layup worth in the first quarter? And the fourth?

3 dimes though!!

Yea his post game might be nice, but that's not good offense anymore. Unless he's absolutely incredible in the post he will never be a positive impact player, he can only play limited minutes because of his defense and he needs to be able to score enough to justify giving him the ball virtually...

He's just not good. At best he will be Al Jefferson

This is what I mean, this thought is dumb. You can absolutely judge him, or anyone, this year

Man I didn't say he's been terrible. That's not even close to what I meant. I was pointing out how stupid it would be to completely absolve him from any criticism whatsoever simply because Hayward won't play this year. I'm not sure how you even made that leap.   I was simply asking, how long...

So he could be absolutely terrible and it's just forgiven? Seems rather convenient 

At what point is it fair to criticize him? I said I'd wait till Jan/Feb, that good enough?

I did. But I never said KAT was better

Not sure why you’re calling me out