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Do you not like Donald? I don't scout DL but people I trust love him. Charting his pressures per snap, he has the highest rate in the draft > Clowney even. Haven't heard a bad thing about his game.

And?   We're talking about QB's.   Plus, there's always exceptions to the rule, man. No one has ever denied this.     Also evaluating Bortles is killing me. He has some great tape and some god awful tape. Not sure at this point if his flaws or positives are going to win out, and by how much. I...

Andrew Luck was safe as fuck lol. I don't mean to compare these QB's to Luck, but there are safe prospects, and overall some guys are safer than others, definitely. Matt Ryan was the same. Even if he didn't boom, he wouldn't bust. It's about weighing substance vs potential. Right now in that 1st...

That's true as well. Even the safest one of the group isn't safe. 

I meant it in a way as they are finally thinking for themselves and not riding the sheep train of "the big 4 > everyone". Not because he agrees with me. I don't care if he likes Mett or Savage or whoever, I'm just glad he realizes that "top tier" isn't the be all end all, because really they are...

In general I think the "Tier 1" guys on ESPN and NFL N are Teddy, Manziel, Bortles and Carr, and thus what that quote is talking about.

Also since none of the QB's are elite prospects, any of their draft positions could fluctuate, it really depends on who likes who. It's not hoping "the" QB is there when you pick, it's picking the right flavor, because damn the QB's are a sure diverse group who frankly any one of which can...

Mettenberger 30, Bortles 28, Bridgewater 20, in case anyone didn't see them all.   Louis Riddick of ESPN (one of the few respected analysts at ESPN) said this on Twitter today. Been saying this for fucking months. Finally the media knows what it's talking about.

Except I don't think Tate will totally fall flat per se.

Wow I can't believe I actually found this. Another NFL writer literally has the exact same opinion as me:  

I don't have a boner for rookies. I'm just objective about it. Ask anyone in tune with the draft, the WRs are nuts. You don't need to start personal insults if you disagree with me.   The Lions still could have went D first even without Tate. He's proven he can be average, and I stand by that...

I'm sick and tired of people bashing Murray/Fales for arm strength issues, but then make no mention of the same with Bridgewater. *Cough* I'm looking at you, McShay *cough*

I think people automatically assume the run heavy offense hurt him when in reality it did him just as many favors; as did Wilson.    And I get not wanting to draft for potential. I'm not saying go out and take a Martavis Bryant, I'm saying go out and get a Jarvis Landry/Allen Robinson/Davante...

What has he proven? That he can be a supporting WR with other supporting WR's? He never was a #1 WR in Seattle. I get they didn't pass a lot, but if they wanted the ball in his hands, it would have been there.    Perhaps the rookies may not be better this year, perhaps they will, but either way...

You don't need to pay $6M for that. It's ridiculous. Especially with Calvin there. Use the money on something that will help.

Tom Savage reminds me a lot of Chad Henne. 5-7th rounder IMO.

Anyone will have more success in a pass happy offense playing opposite Calvin. It's not about stats, it's about value. Like I said in the other thread, there's 10-12 WR's in the draft better than Tate and about 6-8 of them will be available at 45. The Lions would only have to pay that guy $1M a...

Take aways from Bortles' Pro Day:   > Really struggled throwing the deep ball, somewhere between 4-6 misses, which is consistent with his tape.   > Raiders GM is at David Fales' Pro Day, rather than at Bortles'. EDIT: Dennis Allen was at Bortles' though.   >Mayock said Bortles is at least a year...

Golden Tate said:   Seattle had it right, $3 million +/- a year is what he's worth. Smart of them to let him walk and not overpay, they know him better than anyone. 

Shit, not only is Bortles' Pro Day tomorrow, it's also Fales'. Damn, he's gonna get no attention tomorrow.