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"Just trust me."     Yawn....

Fantasy is done specifically to win the fictitious game of fantasy baseball.   Those pitchers have a lot to prove before they enter into Yu's range.

1)  If you think Fantasy Baseball is geared to anything but winning a fictitious sport I can't help you out.  Sorry man.   2)  We can talk about Yu.  He's a top 12-20ish pitcher

Im ok with a gambling one, I just will bow out then.

Agreed, but seen it works too as I stated with my example

Along with ESPN, the MLB Network doesn't mention the 2005 White Sox among Chicago Teams with championships so not surprising.  What you did was make the case for Q being #1 in underrated.   FTR, I don't see anyone bashing Yu, but you keep defending him like someone is.

Way to reduce it to a single year and ignore the evidence since 2012.  Bravo!

Are you sure you are as old as you say you are or is your fruit just a sign of your intelligence?   Glad you put me in my place.

I'd be happy to have more guys to follow regularly  :)

Fantasy does no such thing I do no throw around obscure stats.  If you watch baseball as much as you claim fWAR would not be something someone with your experience would call obscure.  Let's look at the numbers shall we since you are not.   2012-2017 fWAR leaders for pitchers: Kerhsaw 40.3...

oh, and for the GG discussion, I have no idea what you are speaking about

You are older than me.  I'm 1973. Fantasy is your evidence?  Try again please.  I used fWAR to prove the point that from 2012 to present Q is a top 10 pitcher.  Can you use something tangible?    Also if you are going to call me a homer, please define since my objective measure shows otherwise. ...

1)  Not sure how old you are, but not many are older than me. 2)  I am wrong, since 2012 Jose has never been worse than Yu 3)  Check fWAR 2012 thru 2017, 2013 thru 2017, etc and here's what you'll find.  Q is top 10 without a doubt, his worst was last year and he came in at #14.  Oh yeah, he...

Uhhh..Lester was as good as Q, now behind.  Darvish right now is better, yes

I can do a free league but as stated, the league needs to be active.  Even if you suck you gotta make moves.  I took over a team that had 10 points right after AS break and got the team to second from last.  I really enjoyed that.

What makes you think that he's no where near?  I agree he is outside of the top 10 after last year but the prior four years quite easily top 10 based on WAR

        You all need to watch more baseball and baseball analysts as well as researching numbers.

There are people that cover baseball for a living.  They do not agree with you.  The metrics don't agree with you either.

No one that gets a paycheck would agree with you

LOL