Teagle's 2013 mock V3.2 - 3/2

[Hurricane Season]

I can't agree with that, you can find guys who can do a solid job at NT in the draft or in FA but finding a stud pass rusher is very hard to nearly impossible.

By my count, there are at least 24 above average to great pass rushers in the NFL. There are maybe 5 true nose tackles.

 

[Hurricane Season]

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[jonathanlambert33]

Maybe I was wrong then. But that doesn't change my initial thought. Give me the pass rusher. It's what the Saints need.

 

[Teagz]

1. Kansas City - Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
2. Jacksonville - Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
3. Oakland - Sheldon Richardson, DT, Mizzou
4. Philadelphia - Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
5. Detroit - Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida St
6. Cleveland - Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
7. Arizona - Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
8. Buffalo - Damontre Moore, DE/OLB, Texas A&M
9. New York Jets - Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
10. Tennessee - Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama
11. San Diego - Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
12. Miami - Ziggy Ansah, DE/OLB, BYU
13. Tampa Bay - Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida St
14. Carolina - Shariff Floyd, DL, Florida
15. New Orleans - Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
16. St. Louis - Corderelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
17. Pittsburgh - Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia
18. Dallas - Keke Mingo, DE, LSU
19. New York - Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas St
20. Chicago - D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
21. Cincinnati - Manti Te'o, LB, Notre Dame
22. St. Louis (Via Washington) - Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina
23. Minnesota - Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
24. Indianapolis - Jonathan Hankins, DT, Ohio St
25. Seattle - Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
26. Green Bay - Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
27. Houston - Kenny Vacarro, S, Texas
28. Denver - Kevin Minter, LB, LSU
29. New England - Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
30. Atlanta - Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
31. San Francisco - D.J. Swearinger, S, South Carolina
32. Baltimore - John Jenkins, NT, Georgia

Round 2
1. Jacksonville - Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
2. Kansas City - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
3. Philadelphia - Jonathan Cyprien, S, FIU
4. Detroit - Jonathan Banks, CB, Mississippi St
5. Cincinnati - Gio Bernard, RB, UNC
6. Arizona - Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse
7. NY Jets - Mike Glennon, QB, NC State
8. Tennessee - Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
9. Buffalo - Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
10. Miami - Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
11. Tampa Bay - Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
12. Carolina - Dallas Thomas, OL, Tennessee
13. San Diego - Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers
14. St. Louis - Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego St
15. Dallas - Matt Elam, S, Florida
16. Pittsburgh - Stedman Baily, WR, West Virginia
17. NY Giants - Datone Jones, DL, UCLA
18. Chicago - Barrett Jones, OL, Alabama
19. Washington - Eric Reid, S, LSU
20. Minnesota - Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
21. Cincinnati - Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon St
22. Miami - Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise St
23. Green Bay - Travis Frederick, OL, Wisconsin
24. Seattle - Robert Woods, WR, USC
25. Houston - Sly Williams, DT, North Carolina
26. Denver - Phillip Thomas, S, Fresno St
27. New England - Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech
28. Atlanta - Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
29. San Francisco - Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
30. Baltimore - Tony Jefferson, S, Oklahoma

 

[jonathanlambert33]

I would probably have a tough time passing up Mingo if he was still on the board.

 

[Mooche]

Hankins?

Oh God, no.

 

[bosoxlover12]

I see 11 guys who I would take instead of Trufant for NE.


This mock is meh to me. Sheldon wont play NT, and he's more likely to go #2 than Lotulelei
Patterson is miles too high
Moore makes no sense for Buffalo, who has way too many other needs than another DE.
Te'o is too high
Gio should be the 1st RB off the board
Vaccaro falling past STL is extremely doubtful
NT is like one of 3 positions the Ravens don't need
CB for Cleveland? They need pass rushers, not corners.
And most of all, Geno Smith will not be the #1 pick. Stop mocking that, it will not happen. He isn't a 1st grade value, and I'm seeing more and more people move him down to a trade into the late 20's type of player right now, not a #1 pick. Joeckel is almost a certain lock for #1.

 

[bosoxlover12]

Hankins?

Oh God, no.

Jenkins or Williams makes a lot more sense than Hankins for the Colts

 

[elcheato]

We need corners too

 

[bosoxlover12]

Last year:

"We can't spend the #4 pick on Mo Claiborne. We have Haden, and we cant draft a #2 CB with a Top 5 pick."

How does one year make anything different? You significantly need a pass rusher, and Milliner isn't even that great.

 

[East]

Can't seen Luke falling past Oakland

 

[East]

Also don't see the browns passing on Jones or Werner

 

[Teagz]

I see 11 guys who I would take instead of Trufant for NE.


This mock is meh to me. Sheldon wont play NT, and he's more likely to go #2 than Lotulelei
Patterson is miles too high
Moore makes no sense for Buffalo, who has way too many other needs than another DE.
Te'o is too high
Gio should be the 1st RB off the board
Vaccaro falling past STL is extremely doubtful
NT is like one of 3 positions the Ravens don't need
CB for Cleveland? They need pass rushers, not corners.
And most of all, Geno Smith will not be the #1 pick. Stop mocking that, it will not happen. He isn't a 1st grade value, and I'm seeing more and more people move him down to a trade into the late 20's type of player right now, not a #1 pick. Joeckel is almost a certain lock for #1.

Who would you take with the Pats pick? A lot of mocks have the Pats going CB and unless you're desperate for a WR/DT/S or like one of the other corners better, picking Trufant isn't terrible.

Richardson's blend of size and speed screams Raiders. And why would he play NT? Unless I missed something, the Raiders still run the 4-3. And Star's not terrible for the Jags if they decide to go DT, Alualu's a bust and Knighton's going to be a FA.

Total brainfart on the Bills pick, completely forgot they're going to the hybrid. My bad on that one.

Te'o is a perfect Bengal, but then again it seems that Ogletree is too. Assuming he falls a tad after this DUI, he'll probably be there at 21 for the Bengals taking.

Just personal preference with Lacy over Gio. Plus Lacy's stock has been rising since the NCG.

NT's not bad for Baltimore if they don't bring back Kemeoatu on a short deal. The only replacement on the roster is Cody and he's been terrible.

I do agree with you about Joeckel going #1, it just won't be to the Chiefs imo. Someone's who really wants Luke is going trade up and get him. My prediction is that Arizona trades up to get him and the Chiefs take him at 7. But mocking without out trades really puts that to rest.

 

[bosoxlover12]

Swearinger, Poyer, Banks, Sylvester Willams, Elam, Okafor, Hunt, Jesse Williams, Thomas, Cyprien, Barrett

 

[Teagz]

V3.1
1. Kansas City - Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
2. Jacksonville - Sheldon Richardson, DL, Mizzou
3. Oakland - Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
4. Philadelphia - Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
5. Detroit - Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida St
6. Cleveland - Ziggy Ansah, DE/OLB, BYU
7. Arizona - Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
8. Buffalo - Geno Smith, OB, West Virginia
9. New York Jets - Keke Mingo, OLB, LSU
10. Tennessee - Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama
11. San Diego - Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
12. Miami - Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
13. Tampa Bay - Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida St
14. Carolina - Shariff Floyd, DL, Florida
15. New Orleans - Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
16. St. Louis - Kenny Vacarro, S, Texas
17. Pittsburgh - Cordarelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
18. Dallas - Damontre Moore, DE/OLB, Texas A&M
19. New York - Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas St
20. Chicago - D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
21. Cincinnati - Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia
22. St. Louis (Via Washington) - Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina
23. Minnesota - Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
24. Indianapolis - Jon Jenkins, NT, Georgia
25. Seattle - Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
26. Green Bay - Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
27. Houston - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
28. Denver - Kevin Minter, LB, LSU
29. New England - D.J. Swearinger, S, South Carolina
30. Atlanta - Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
31. San Francisco - Jonathan Cyprien, S, FIU
32. Baltimore - Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame

 

[bosoxlover12]

I usually don't mock players to spots when I think they will trade out of the spot, but you gave Jacksonville exactly who I thought they would take.


Sheldon Richardson is a perfect DE in the Jacksonville LEO defense. Think Red Bryant for the Seahawks; that's Richardson's role. If they don't trade down, I'd expect a LEO of either Zeke or Keke, but Sheldon is an underrated pick. I like it.


I don't love the Dion Jordan pick, because I feel they have bigger needs than a pass rusher. But Dion is definitely the best pass rushing LB in this draft (I don't love the prospects of Ansah or Mingo as LBs), so its not too bad.


Mingo would play OLB for the Jets. 3-4 defense


Naht bad tho. Love the Swearinger pick definitely.

 

[Hurricane Season]

That would be a Tyson Jackson-esque reach.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Even with the red flags I don't think I'd mind Jarvis.

 

[A.E]

I'm trying to figure out how your mock changes so dramatically, every couple of days.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Input from others, more research, change in opinion...